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Post by pim on Sept 1, 2018 22:40:22 GMT 10
Someone is doing a number on him. This is payback time. I did read (I think it might have been in Crikey) that threats had been made against Turnbull that if he didn't resign the Abbott/Dutton/Ray Hadley/Alan Jones mob were going to pull out a dirt file they claimed to have on Turnbull and dump on him. If that's true, and nothing would surprise me after last week, then ask yourself who would be most motivated to dump on Dutton big time? I think this is Turnbull who finally got in touch with his inner mongrel. Pity he didn't find it earlier.
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Post by Yassir Rebob on Sept 1, 2018 22:58:54 GMT 10
Don't forget Dutton has always been dirt in Melbourne, and a lot of that has to do with the treatment of "Dustys old man". Dutton also requested that the Indonesians refuse to grant Sean Martin an entry visa to Bali, when he tried visit Dusty during to off season last year. When you've just won the Brownlow/Norm Smith Medalist/Premiership trifecta, you deserve better respect. Thats quite a sore point amongst many Melbournians, no matter who they support. Martins Maori heritage is also seen as having a fair bit to do with it.
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Post by pim on Sept 1, 2018 23:22:33 GMT 10
Rings a bell, that case. Just goes to show how deluded the fruitcake extreme right were that they actually believed that Dutton was the Messiah to lead the Coalition into permanent government.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 3:09:08 GMT 10
Alex Turnbull is backing a Labor candidate for Wentworth directing people to Tim Murray and his website to donate funds.....and wait for it Tim speaks Mandarin....great guy...someone to watch if he wins the seat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 10:52:00 GMT 10
Its a good back flip ..... pension age is fair at 60 reasonable at 65 so 62.5 is good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 11:03:00 GMT 10
I am self funded with a low on funds......good thing the beach is just down the road...
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Post by pim on Sept 5, 2018 12:52:53 GMT 10
"It's the economy stupid ..." Trickles you keep trotting out that line. For you it's the no-brainer that clinches the argument. Michael Kroger trotted that line out during the Rudd Government to Kerry O'Brien as a way of showing that even though Rudd Labor was in government the Libs still dominated the economic argument. "It's the economy stupid" - Bill Clinton made that his campaign leitmotif during his first presidential campaign in the early 1990s. This was at the height of the Blairite Third Way. A misnomer since Hawke/Keating pioneered the Third Way and showed Blair and Clinton how it's done. Arguably that capitalist reformist politician Gough Whitlam anticipated the Third Way in a lot of his policies. Newsflash: the Third Way is over. New imperatives now: like using the taxation system to redistribute wealth downwards, like greater government intervention in the economy, like big government is sexy again. Like "socialism" being used in a defiant way as something worthwhile. Although the danger here is that all sorts of snake oil merchants will crawl out of the woodwork and try to claim (falsely) the "socialist" mantle. The ALP for example. It still claims the "socialist" mantle but it's never been a socialist party and never will be. Let's just say it likes to invoke "socialism" as part of its Holy Writ, but it's always been in touch with its inner capitalist
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Post by pim on Sept 5, 2018 13:42:54 GMT 10
Keep trying Trickles.
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Post by pim on Sept 5, 2018 15:13:58 GMT 10
Once upon a time, girls and boys there was a ship. It was a big ship that carried lots of passengers and saw itself as the most modern ship afloat. People admired it so much that they thought it was unsinkable. Back then they called this ship "Titanic" As it set off to cross the Big Ocean bands played, flags flew and people cheered. Meanwhile, out there on the Big Ocean a nasty Iceberg waited. Here's a nasty Iceberg ... These days we call the "Titanic" the Liberal Party and the Nasty Iceberg is called Electoral Armageddon. Here's what happened to the Titanic and the Iceberg And here's what happened to the poor Titanic And the same thing is going to happen to the Liberal Party THE END
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 19:15:53 GMT 10
The economy has been trotting along nicely for the big end of town.
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Post by pim on Sept 9, 2018 23:00:01 GMT 10
More of the same old "Kill Bill" stodge. It’s all Trickles has left. Whatever. I think the real game is "Scuttle Scott"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 6:15:06 GMT 10
Shorto's unpopularity won't effect the outcome as the people will vote for the team.
Team LNP are backward thinking all today not tomorrow ideology following the USA lead on climate do nothing.
Conservatives in Europe have the ability to think ahead and have the policies to think about tomorrows world.
Australian conservatives have followed the good ol' all the way with USA road that will have economic negative consequences for countries that have failed to take serious action on climate change.
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Post by pim on Sept 10, 2018 6:57:56 GMT 10
That's true Ponto. Think of all of the issues battering Theresa May's prime ministership, Boris Johnson and his feral behaviour and Brexit to name the two big ones. Where does climate change denial fit in the British scenario? It doesn't. Geert Wilders in NL? Marine Le Pen in France? AfD in Germany? The far right that has become scary in Sweden, in Hungary, in Italy and in Greece? What's their big scary issue? Immigration. How about stopping action on climate change with the promise that by burning coal you're guaranteed to bring down power prices? I can say WTF in Dutch, in French and in German but not in Swedish, Hungarian, in Italian or in Greek. Ask anyone from Geert Wilders outfit about burning coal and lowering power prices and why they're not advocating it they'd tell you something like "Ben je helemaal gek?" = are you completely stupid?
What you do have in Europe is Big Coal has been replaced by Big Nukes. I admit that I also was an advocate here of nukes to replace fossil fuels but the SA experience has shown me just how viable - and cheap - renewables have become. The last thing we want is to replace one energy Frankenstein's monster with another. Big Nukes have not gained a vested interest in the Australian economy like Big Coal has. Let's keep it that way.
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Post by pim on Sept 10, 2018 12:53:20 GMT 10
A messiah! Poor Trickles still yearns for the Messiah-that-never-cometh-and-when-he-doth-he-always-disappointeth
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 13:18:28 GMT 10
Politics today has been corrupted by big biz , its standard way of doin' things with politics..Labor still retains some ethic with climate change..not much better otherwise from the Libs.
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Post by pim on Sept 16, 2018 12:40:59 GMT 10
Morrison puts a fig leaf on a policy area. And Trickles beams his approval. ScoMo is of course the prime minister for fudge factors and snake oil. Trickles loves this stuff!
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Post by pim on Sept 16, 2018 18:20:05 GMT 10
A bandwagon! Trickles has found his latest bandwagon! Now he believes he's the board champion for Kerryn Phelps and that he alone has "discovered" her
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 20:27:42 GMT 10
The LNP cut funding and told age care facilities to make a profit....they were also told ithey have two choices...if they want a RN then they must cut care staff, if they want more care staff then they must remove RN’s....with LNP profit driven free marketeers it’s people are commodities.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 20:53:37 GMT 10
And while I’m here ...why is there no questioning of the clean coal ads on Tele ...?
Considering that clean coal is a myth.
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Post by pim on Sept 17, 2018 0:39:49 GMT 10
Trickles! That's our next prime minister you're talking about. He'll be prime minister for so long they'll refer to his prime ministership as the Shorten Era. And you can eat your heart out.
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Post by Yassir Rebob on Sept 17, 2018 17:25:55 GMT 10
The metric where Morrison is less beholden to interest groups than shorten is wrong. Morrison is a Fiberal, of course he is beholden to interest groups. Its in the DNA of the Fiberals to be beholden to interest Groups. The IPA, Newscorpse, Big Miners, Corperate Shills..... Need I go on
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Post by pim on Sept 22, 2018 8:59:18 GMT 10
I agree with your point about the schools, but disagree that it's got anything to do with "freemarketeerism". If anything it's the very opposite. Look mate, when Australians talk about "freemarketeerism" (clunky word you've made up but now you've got me using it ya bugger!) listen and you'll hear the plop plop of Australian bullshit. Labor is attacked by the Liberals for being about Big Government. And so they are! Labor makes no apology for using the taxation system as a tool for redistributing wealth. And neither should it. The Nationals are into it too but then they've always been the pork barrel party. It’s the Liberals that peddle the snake oil about the "free market" but only to mask their own Big Government tendencies. Like Labor they use the taxation system to redistribute wealth. But here's the difference: Labor uses the taxation system to redistribute wealth downwards. The Liberals by contrast use the taxation system to redistribute wealth upwards. They’re not a freemarketeer's bootlace.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 10:57:34 GMT 10
While its difficult to predict the future Pim as things may change with a Labor government and funding....obviously over the years school funding has shifted to benefit the private sector under the banner of choice, but what can be predicted in the future funding is that when people (folks) are thinking private is a necessity for good education then the LNP will cut funding...just as they have done for age care, everything must be run as a business...just a medicare would be destroyed if they could get away with it.
Freemarketeerism by stealth....to be US style.
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Post by caskur on Sept 22, 2018 13:07:12 GMT 10
When Turnbull exclaimed once, "We have a plan for your future," that was it for me. How dare they think they can PLAN my future.
Politicians are psychopaths including this new one (PM) we have.
Labor = no difference.
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