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Post by pim on Dec 16, 2019 9:15:19 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:32:57 GMT 10
Facts are the economy is slowing people becoming poorer while the plutocracy wealth is growing...objective fact with the LNP government...plutocracy rules....Australia has become the worlds biggest lack of climate change action country using dodgy accountancy and old carbon credits to increase emissions for Clive Palmer's huge dirty thermal coal biz...PS: I am not rusted onto any political party, such as it is there is not much choice to vote for ...either Labor, the LNP or the Greens or ratbags...the LNP are that far to the right in politics you would have to be either naive or a complete nong to vote for them....and you have fallen into the complete nong bracket Nomo.
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Post by pim on Dec 16, 2019 13:22:07 GMT 10
I respect Ponto's statement about not being rusted on. Personally I have been a rusted on Labor voter all my adult life and make no apology for it. Originally got there through the Vietnam protests and trade union activism through my working life.
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Post by pim on Dec 16, 2019 16:08:05 GMT 10
You're a fanatical bean counter Trickles so I'll quote an economist, Richard Denniss, for you: ScoMo's denial of the need to do more to mitigate bushfires is "consistent with his denial of the need to stimulate the economy, reduce emissions or fight corruption in Canberra. His government isn't just post-truth, it's post-governing". Yep, totally liberating ...
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Post by pim on Dec 16, 2019 18:53:40 GMT 10
As the country burns ... and the firefighters are reduced to crowdfunding to equip themselves properly.
Ah but the holy surplus ... Thoughts and prayers for the firefighters. After all, they want to be there!
How wonderful that you have your priorities so well sorted out. So liberating. How nice for you.
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Post by pim on Dec 16, 2019 22:57:10 GMT 10
Oh I seeee! It’s down to the States! Nothin’ to do with ScoMo, it’s a State matter. Move along please, nothing to see here (rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb) .... Oh but we have such a lovely surplus and that religious freedom Bill is going to knock ‘em dead! But bushfires? What have they got to do with anything! Y’know, it wasn’t that long ago when Anna Bligh was Qld Premier and Julia Gillard was PM that Qld went through a rough time with some pretty heavy duty weather events. Not bushfires back then but floods. I recall footage of the main street of a town being turned into a river with SUV’s being swept along by a raging current. The authorities had had to open the floodgates of the Wivenhoe Dam as I recall and all hell broke loose. It reached Brisbane and the result was disaster as the Brisbane River broke its banks and flooded great swathes of the downtown area and suburbia. Anna Bligh rocked up to the mike every day to give briefings and Julia Gillard was frequently by her side. They co-ordinated both state and federal agencies and what Queensland needed from the federal government, Queensland got. Now I don’t want to misrepresent Gladys Berejiklian but from where I sit in SA I haven’t seen the same co-ordination between state and federal governments. You’re quite right Trickles - in a formal sense. It is a state matter. Why, ScoMo said so himself and he went further and said that if the state government needed anything they should get in touch. Wow! Does that mean that the NSW government hasn’t been in touch? I mean in the Qld floods Julia didn’t wait to be asked. She was up there saying to Anna “How can we help? What do you need?” What’s more Julia didn’t try to hog the limelight as ScoMo would do. Anna Bligh ran her own show and even her political enemies admitted she did a superlative job during that natural disaster. But Julia played a supporting role and didn’t try to take any of the credit. That belonged to Anna. But leadership? During that Qld floods crisis where there were Labor governments at both state and federal levels the relevant politicians stepped up to the plate and showed leadership in spades. You can bet your left testicle that no Qld emergency worker during those floods had to crowdfund in order to get the equipment he needed. The news that the NSW firefighters had to crowdfund to kit themselves out properly is a shocking indictment of two Coalition governments- state and federal. Public squalor and climate change denial. You voted for it, you got it. How liberating for you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 6:50:50 GMT 10
ScoMo came out for the Townsville floods and calls a national emergency....yet the mega bushfires...keep a low profile and don't give people the opportunity to express their fears about climate change....this government just works on its agenda of increasing carbon emissions while disaster happens all around whether fires or the Murray Darling....and still try to blame Labor for their tripling of the deficit.
This government is blind...and ugly....and NoMo thinks he has been liberated...not understanding the level of plutocracy this country has never known will be a disaster.
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Post by pim on Dec 17, 2019 9:51:19 GMT 10
Yeah right. Instead of contributing something doable and practical, Trickles trivialises the issue by going off on a pie in the sky frolic of fantasy that stands a snowflake’s chance in hell of ever being realised.
Meanwhile the countryside remains on fire in a climate change-induced natural disaster emergency that bodes ill for the summer season that’s still in its early stages. One that cries out for national leadership. And ScoMo and his government? ...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 16:27:45 GMT 10
The jig is up on the coalition today....as the fire shows people climate change is real....then there's 2 years to go to the next election, the coalition are banking on people will forget, then its carry on as usual...no serious action on climate change...kowtowing to their masters of greed....and if you had a ethical conscience Nemo you would show signs of regret for voting for them.
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Post by Gort on Jan 14, 2020 8:02:38 GMT 10
Ponto ... Refer to my previous post: ... As for Labor? Were they going to ban Adani? Were they going to reintroduce a Carbon tax? Were they going to reduce COAL exports? Nope Nope Nope Refer to my previous post: What was the alternative? "Then why vote for a turd polishing political party if you think climate change is real ..." Because on Global Warming (and offshore detention) there is no real difference between the two major parties. Kevvie wimping it over cap and trade. Julia wimping it over cap and trade. Kevvie wimping it over cap and trade. Again. Double-speaking Shorto and the Adani mine policy fiasco for example. Shorto opening the floodgates for Fracking. Penny Wong and COAL for example. Joel Fitzgibbon and COAL mining for example. If no change can happen from within ... then vote the fuckers out until they get their act together. Can't vote for the Greens ... they would cause mass blackouts. Can't vote for the fuckwit Laborites they are double-speaking ratbags. Fuckwit policies that actually hurt those on the lowest incomes the hardest. I'll come back when they change their tune. As for FRANKING CREDITS ... Refer to my previous post: The problem with Labor's policy was that those not on a pension (who are sometimes on an even lower income than pensioners) were going to be clobbered by a discriminatory policy that was actually stupid. You forget Ponto: this policy was going to hit about 850,000 accounts. That's after they exempted pensioners. They had even set the cut-off date for the last franked dividend payout. It was going to happen alright, and it was going to be a very dumb move. Shorten even spelled out how this was "designed" to hit the lowest income people the hardest! "In a key pledge, Mr Shorten will promise to continue with dividend imputation for millions of taxpayers and would only change the rules for those whose taxable income is so low they qualify for cash refunds."What a bastard! hitting the lowest income people. Is that the Labor way? Why would you force people who were self-funded onto the pension which would have been an impost on the taxpayers of 3 times as much as the forgone tax grab? It was a ridiculous policy. i.e. $5,000 per year forgone or ... force people who were self-funded onto a pension worth about $16,000 per year. It was madness. Chris Bowen should be on the face of a newly minted Labor drongo of all time medallion. Those nongs in Labor were very, very stupid. Not only a discriminatory attack on those who use shares as their method of supporting themselves, but a hit to the consumer sector to the tune of about $5 Billion a year. It was a very poor policy and they were dealt with accordingly.
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Post by pim on Jan 14, 2020 8:20:28 GMT 10
Standard Labor! Labor! Labor! distraction from Treacles. You’re not going to get any remorse from this fraud Ponto. Let him double down and pull his “Look! Over there! Labor! Labor! Labor!” stunts. Who is he fooling? Certainly not the real rednecks on those other boards. They won’t have a bar of him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 7:15:31 GMT 10
Conservatives love deaths.....its good for the funeral business.
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Post by pim on Jan 15, 2020 8:22:37 GMT 10
Thanks Ponto. I’ve “shared” that ScoMo poster far and wide. It reveals the dark agendas beneath the Scotty from Marketing exterior.Then there’s this Pope cartoon which is 100% Scotty from Marketing ...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 9:56:19 GMT 10
The key difference between Labor and the LNP is that Labor would not deliberately stall on the UN climate change talks as the dirty machinations of LNP are now.
And its typical RW tactics to leave half the story out, yes Labor would have still mined coal and gas as in transition away from fossils, they also had plans for greater building on renewables and hydrogen to reach emissions targets, where as the LNP would ave none of that, their solution is to build more dams, that relies on rain which is far less doubt fall than sun and wind, and to kill off National Parks and increase emissions.
Which is why ScoMo did not heed the warning back in June from ex fire chief experts that Australia is going to face a mega fire calamity...he wanted the country too burn and why he went on holidays with a smirk on his face, bushfires is normal nothing to see....the LNP are prepared to kill people for their policies, Labor is not....and that is no joke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 16:21:20 GMT 10
And so it begins...while Nemo goes Labor Labor Labor same as LNP frogshit...
NSW deputy premier vows to open up Murray Valley national park to logging This article is more than 6 months old
John Barilaro wants to remove protection by either de-gazetting the entire park or reducing its size
John Barilaro wants to reverse protection of the Murray Valley national park in NSW. Photograph: Ross McDonnell
The NSW deputy premier has vowed to introduce legislation to open up a national park in the state’s Riverina region to logging.
John Barilaro wants to remove protection of the 42,000 hectare Murray Valley national park by either de-gazetting the entire park or reducing its size.
Barilaro told the National party’s recent state conference a bill would be reintroduced to the parliament after the winter recess.
Whether it takes the form of a private member’s bill or government bill will depend on there being broader Coalition support for reversing the listing of the park. Such a move would be a first for New South Wales and is fiercely opposed by environment groups. David Attenborough says it's 'extraordinary' climate deniers are in power in Australia Read more
The conservation area is known for its river red gum forests and is home to several threatened species and a Ramsar-listed wetland.
For it to be a government bill it would also have to go to cabinet, and it is not currently on the cabinet agenda.
Barilaro told Guardian Australia he was prepared to have a debate within the Coalition about the park’s status.
“The river red gums industry was wiped out by the stroke of a pen by [former Labor leader] Nathan Rees in his dying days as premier,” he said.
“If the only way to return this industry to its former owners and employees is to carve out that part of the national park, then that is what we should do.
“I expect many Liberals will support this move but there will be many who do not – everyone is entitled to their views. Nationals MP pushes to allow logging of huge river red gum forest Read more
“But I will not sit by and see an industry, so unfairly dealt with, lose their livelihoods forever just because we need to avoid a public debate with our partners.”
When the park was established in 2010, taxpayers paid $97m to the timber industry as part of an industry readjustment package.
Last year, the former member for Murray Austin Evans introduced a private member’s bill that proposed reversing the listing of the park. At the time, Evans was under pressure in his seat over the future of the logging industry.
The bill did not make it to a vote before the NSW election in March this year and Evans lost his seat to the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers party.
Barilaro said the National party would reintroduce a bill after the winter recess and “do what we were elected to do – to make our case and convince the parliament that this should be supported”.
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The National Parks Association of NSW wrote to the environment minister, Matt Kean, this week, urging him to rule out government support.
The association’s senior ecologist, Oisin Sweeney, said “we strongly hope that this doesn’t represent a shift in government policy”.
“It’s an absolutely monumental shift away from a bipartisan approach to protected areas, and keeping them protected,” he said.
“The whole point of gazetting national parks is so the public can have confidence that these areas are protected in perpetuity for their conservation and social values.”
Sweeney also asked, if such a move was supported, whether the $97m paid by NSW taxpayers would be recouped.
Kate Smolski, the chief executive of the Nature Conservation Council of NSW, said stripping protections from the park would be “a gross act of environmental vandalism”.
“These magnificent forests are protected because they are struggling after decades of logging and grazing, impacts that are being multiplied by climate change, water diversions and drought,” she said.
“This government has the worst record for creating national parks in the past 50 years but stripping protections from the river red gums national park would be an unprecedented low.”
Guardian Australia sought comment from Kean but he was unavailable before publication deadline.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 17:44:00 GMT 10
Not quite as its no laughing matter....the Nationals have always been ideologically against National Parks.....consider that it is the RW (Nats) that has been most vocal that it is arsonist creating the fires blaming the Labor left and Greens as responsible.....while not going so far as to say its the Nats lighting fires I wouldn't put it past them.
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Post by bender on Jan 18, 2020 10:03:01 GMT 10
You'd have to score the Federal Government an F for their response to the Bushfires.
They weren't prepared despite the Nations former Fire Chiefs seeking a meeting with the PM to warn him that we weren't prepared.
Their financial aid to the Rural Fire Services has been too little leading to the disaster that we face now.
Their response in terms of financial aid to victims has been abysmal. I lost pretty much everything in the 2011 Queensland floods and I can tell you from experience that the response in terms of financial assistance from the Government was great. They set up one stop shops where you were able to register and receive aid from a variety of departments. They all worked together so their services didn't overlap, yet there were no gaps. It took just a couple of hours then I was able to return to cleaning up and the money started hitting my bank account that day.
That was about 36 hours after the waters receeded.
The Federal Government this time has limited relief payments to less then $2,000. When you are not only starting from scratch but also have to seek alternative accommodation $2,000 is less then useless.
The fires haven't even affected as many households as those floods, surely the Government should have been able to do more.
And lets not overlook their policy response in terms of Australia's commitment to battling climate change.
What response...
An F seems generous.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 14:45:04 GMT 10
Score a FW....Fuck Wit grade..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 19:22:26 GMT 10
Scott Morrison Would Like You To Stop Calling Him “Scotty From Marketing,” Pretty Please
By Cam Tyeson 20/01/2020
Scott Morrison would like the record to show that he is extremely, definitely, 100% not mad about being saddled with the “Scotty From Marketing” nickname in recent months. Really, he does not care at all. He’s fine with it. He’s laughing, actually. It’s a great and funny joke, to him.
The derisive title – far from the ridiculous “ScoMo” that, ironically, was concocted as a means of marketing Morrison to the Australian public – was thrust upon the Prime Minister during the dizzying peaks of his great bushfire disappearing act, penned originally by The Betoota Advocate.
Not at all like the giant dog turd that has been the leadership exhibited by the Prime Minister in recent weeks, the nickname has hung around like a bad smell. Whereas “ScoMo” is the laconic everyman the Prime Minister so fucking desperately wishes he really was, “Scotty From Marketing” is the out-of-touch buffoon who fell ass-first into a gig he was never truly prepared for before fucking off to Hawaii to hoover Depressed Dad mai tais at the first signs of trouble.
Appearing on 3AW this morning, Morrison was at pains to stress just how extremely NOT mad at all he is about the nickname, first suggesting that it was “what the Labor Party is saying” (it’s not) and that it was part of “a Labor Party campaign” (it isn’t), before claiming that the nickname doesn’t bother him and that he “[doesn’t] care, really” (he absofuckinglutely does).
He’s not mad about being called Scotty From Marketing. He loves it, actually! It’s great! An awesome name that we should all definitely keep calling him and definitely doesn’t make him have a little cry in the work loos.
Top name! Definitely not mad about it! Next question!
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Post by pim on Jan 23, 2020 9:15:07 GMT 10
Scott Morrison Would Like You To Stop Calling Him “Scotty From Marketing,” Pretty Please
By Cam Tyeson 20/01/2020
Scott Morrison would like the record to show that he is extremely, definitely, 100% not mad about being saddled with the “Scotty From Marketing” nickname in recent months. Really, he does not care at all. He’s fine with it. He’s laughing, actually. It’s a great and funny joke, to him.
The derisive title – far from the ridiculous “ScoMo” that, ironically, was concocted as a means of marketing Morrison to the Australian public – was thrust upon the Prime Minister during the dizzying peaks of his great bushfire disappearing act, penned originally by The Betoota Advocate.
Not at all like the giant dog turd that has been the leadership exhibited by the Prime Minister in recent weeks, the nickname has hung around like a bad smell. Whereas “ScoMo” is the laconic everyman the Prime Minister so fucking desperately wishes he really was, “Scotty From Marketing” is the out-of-touch buffoon who fell ass-first into a gig he was never truly prepared for before fucking off to Hawaii to hoover Depressed Dad mai tais at the first signs of trouble. “Scotty from marketing.” contains the image of an insubstantial person interested primarily in public relations fluff, rather than in actually doing anything.
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Post by pim on Feb 3, 2020 9:26:41 GMT 10
"Holy franking credits! The polls! The polls! Blessed be the polls for yea, verily and in sooth they are infallible. Now and forevermore. Amen." Quoth Trickles reverently
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Post by pim on Feb 3, 2020 11:18:18 GMT 10
Trickles can be Prickles when he's not being Treacles You fathead Prickles. No I'm not going to explain how that is not necessarily an attack post. The rest of the universe wouldn't take it that way. Except for you. What a paranoid conceited moron you are. All these self-promotional displays from you of spamming and screaming and gnashing of teeth over the past few years. What had been their purpose? To change the way I interact with you? How's that going? Any progress? Any progress likely? No? Then what's the point. No don't answer. It's all about keeping up your spam tally which stands at double the number of posts - and more - of other members. Since you're so free with your gratuitous advice on everything to everyone here's a little gem for you and you can have it for free: Post less crap, and post less full stop.
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Post by pim on Feb 3, 2020 13:53:53 GMT 10
Whatever he posted, that brings the tally to 23,564.
This is Trickles, Spammer Extraordinaire! Copious is his drivel and ad hominem are his subjects. Look upon the vast wasteland and desolation encompassed by his mental dribblings. And despair ...
On second thoughts, don’t bother ...
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