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Post by fat on Dec 4, 2012 6:03:39 GMT 10
"They don't mention the "A" word."
Then why do you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 21:42:21 GMT 10
"In WA the aborigine population is 2% but they are 60% of the prison population."That tells you that Aborigines are locked up for things non Aborigines would only get a wrist slap for. Indeed it does. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 21:56:35 GMT 10
no it doesnt if anything the courts are lenient on aborigines its just that they are criminals just look at Alice Springs The evidence suggests otherwise Buzzock. When you go through the sentences are handed down to incarcerated, and match them up to the offenses committed, then overwhelmingly Indigenous People get incarcerated that the rest of us would likely receive non-custodial sentences for. A good case in point is the NT's "Three strikes for Juveniles" laws, where there was that famous case of a 12 year old locked up for stealing coloured pencils, as well as some sweets, from a mines tea-room. Had the lad been a European, he would not have bee incarcerated. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 22:08:51 GMT 10
Now Buzz, there is no need to get shirty just because someone decides to post evidence based-fact that you disagree with.
If the evidence challenges your prejudice, then perhaps it's you that has the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 22:17:02 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 22:36:58 GMT 10
its not evidence based fact - its gibberish ' Well it's not, these are issues that have played out both in the court rooms as well as the media Sure, give us a little time and I can certainly gather Fact. It's not that hard to find either. For instance, the case of the 12 year old that I referenced was fairly major news at the time. Look Buzz, I realise that the evidence does challenge your prejudice, and that alone must really be unsettling for you, but that only means that it's you with issues, and really, you should probably seek help for those issues. I have, I also have relatives who work in CD, so I back my insight on this over yours well the reality shows that indigenous Australians are far more likely to get incarcerated for crimes that the rest of us would more than not only get a non-custodial sentence for Well I do come from the bush, and from a Town that's had more than it's fair share of "racial" problems, but thanks for asking as opposed from a wanker who lives in Perth and has never been anywhere or seen anything yet thinks they know it all ? [/quote] |
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Post by garfield on Dec 19, 2012 22:55:04 GMT 10
"well the reality shows that indigenous Australians are far more likely to get incarcerated for crimes that the rest of us would more than not only get a non-custodial sentence for"
Thats quite remarkable that anyone could really think that 
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Post by garfield on Dec 19, 2012 23:01:03 GMT 10
My own experience has shown that from an early age aboriginal youngsters are told by lefty idiots that they are not responsible for their actions because captain cook stole their land 200 years ago ... then later on its got them completely fliped as to why they grew up to become hardened criminals.
Not real bright the left, but good for a laugh ;D
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Post by matt on Dec 19, 2012 23:28:19 GMT 10
There are huge criminal issues with blacks all over Australia, and the crimes they go to jail for are serious. What lots of people think is that they should be let off without any consequences. They think it doesn't matter that they down an entire carton of beer during a day, bash their wife and molest kids.
I cannot understand how people think it is unjust to send them to jail?
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Post by matt on Dec 20, 2012 11:51:45 GMT 10
Yes, more likely because they're more likely to commit serious crime.
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Post by garfield on Dec 20, 2012 11:52:04 GMT 10
Could be something to do wit the fact that they are 31 times more likely to commit crime, stats wouldn't be half as bad also if all the nine tenths white wankers that identify as abbo to get legal aid and reduced sentences fliped off and died somewhere.
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Post by matt on Dec 20, 2012 12:43:05 GMT 10
Yes, they get locked up because it is their 3rd or 4th offence. Sure, everyone deserves a 2nd chance (except for rapists and catholic paedophiles), but there comes a time when there are consequences!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 13:19:26 GMT 10
There are huge criminal issues with blacks all over Australia, and the crimes they go to jail for are serious. What lots of people think is that they should be let off without any consequences. They think it doesn't matter that they down an entire carton of beer during a day, bash their wife and molest kids. I cannot understand how people think it is unjust to send them to jail? I can't believe that they allow you to walk the streets. you racist nutcase |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 13:22:15 GMT 10
Hey Earl, don't give them fact. You'll only Confuse themes
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Post by matt on Dec 20, 2012 14:50:05 GMT 10
Yes, they get locked up because it is their 3rd or 4th offence. Sure, everyone deserves a 2nd chance (except for rapists and catholic paedophiles), but there comes a time when there are consequences!
"except for rapists and catholic paedophiles"What about Freemason or Mormon or Baptist or Uniting Church paedophiles? They're already in jail, no secrets or cover-up's |
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Post by pim on Dec 22, 2012 7:12:24 GMT 10
A "native"? You mean someone who was born there?
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Post by jody on Dec 22, 2012 19:57:20 GMT 10
A good friend of mine travelled extensively throughout Australia back in the early 80's. He told me of some atrocities he witnessed on how Aborigines were treated and probably still are. Now bear in mind, this guy can be a bit racist with his views but he was appalled by what he saw. He witnesed Aborigines beaten to an inch of their life for no real reason and even saw one tied up out the back of a cop shop. This man had a collar around his neck and and his leash tied to a dog kennel. No one deserves to be treated like that. :/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 20:05:56 GMT 10
A good friend of mine travelled extensively throughout Australia back in the early 80's. He told me of some atrocities he witnessed on how Aborigines were treated and probably still are. Now bear in mind, this guy can be a bit racist with his views but he was appalled by what he saw. He witnesed Aborigines beaten to an inch of their life for no real reason and even saw one tied up out the back of a cop shop. This man had a collar around his neck and and his leash tied to a dog kennel. No one deserves to be treated like that. :/ It's something that is systemic. By that I mean that it's something that Indigenous Australians have suffered for generations. What this does, tragically, is breeds in deep-seated resentment towards the non-indigenous population. Its an issue that's complex and requires a very nuanced approach to solve. Certainly, it's not something that can be solved overnight and it can not be solved by simplistic, fixes. It will take a couple of generations, but if the will is there, it can be fixed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 20:34:12 GMT 10
I dont see you up here you wouldnt have a clue As I said, it's a complex issue, and as long as assholes like you continue with like attitudes, it will probably never get solved. "If you're not willing to help find the solution, you're part of the problem" |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 9:40:58 GMT 10
If you have an issue with crime in Alice Springs (or any other location), there is a simple solution:DON'T GO THERE! 
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Post by caskur on Dec 27, 2012 0:37:10 GMT 10
Never trust what Wikipedia says. Anyone can edit it. tis true! Anyone can edit it! |
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Post by Lord Stockton on Dec 30, 2012 21:41:49 GMT 10
re#85
As distressing as that report was Earl Grey, remember it was printed in June 1986. Maybe something more current would help your argument.
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Post by garfield on Dec 30, 2012 23:25:18 GMT 10
Labor party policy was that the aborigines should continue on in their traditional lifestyle, could be the only successful policy they ever had ;D
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Post by caskur on Jan 1, 2013 4:10:02 GMT 10
The abos that killed that 47 yr old grandfather on Chritmas day playing family cricket, a few years ago, got off with no jail time...
abos do get special consideration from the courts... in WA at least.
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Post by jody on Jan 3, 2013 7:40:55 GMT 10
so what are you doing to make a difference, Buzz?
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