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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2012 20:39:34 GMT 10
Gibbering spamming idiot! ... why don't you blow us all away one day and actually give us a spamless post of your own own thoughts on something for a change ... alternatively you could just paste a picture of a steaming turd, same thing really. Well, it's quite simple actually.
Those dumb rightie idiots (the GOP) created a time-bomb.
And now that time-bomb is about to blow up in their faces.
Haw haw haw....and do you know what is hilariously funny? They could stop that time-bomb ticking at any time by agreeing to tax rises for the filthy greedy rich. Chuckle....oooops, I forgot....it is automatically going to happen anyway come the 1st of January.
Smate....righties are sooooooooo dumb, eh? Guffaw - yes we've all seen the bankrupt socialist economies of the eastern bloc and the wonderful blessings of rationing, starvation and power blackouts in Cuba and North Korea. Gee you lefties really know something about how to run an economy eh.
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Post by matt on Dec 5, 2012 23:02:43 GMT 10
The Federal Reserve is a private institution. Check it out. Only because the Congress allows it. The constitution gives congress the authority to create money.
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Post by garfield on Dec 6, 2012 15:17:13 GMT 10
The Chinese are not worried, they put all their money on black to win. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 17:33:59 GMT 10
The legislation which is pushing the USA towards the fiscal cliff was passed by Republicans. The tax cuts for the rich it annuls were brought in by George W Bush and he was president AFTER Bill Clinton. Obviously Buzzy-boy is too dumb to comprehend that Clinton came BEFORE Dubya. Anyway, another good thing about the fiscal cliff is that it reduces the US defence budget by hundreds of billions of dollars per year. Less money for warmongering and that has to be a good thing (unless one is a warmonger like Altair and his ilk). Bring it on!
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Post by matt on Dec 6, 2012 17:41:04 GMT 10
The United States will still have the strongest military in the world, and has the highest investment of any nation... in fact it spends more on its military than the G8 combined.
We need a strong United States in order to maintain world peace.
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Post by garfield on Dec 6, 2012 18:48:39 GMT 10
Kiwi wants the taliban to be the next superpower.
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Post by garfield on Dec 6, 2012 21:53:32 GMT 10
Is it on the net? ... are you in it? ;D
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Post by garfield on Dec 6, 2012 22:22:16 GMT 10
I had a look on Youtube but only found trailers of a few minutes.
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Post by garfield on Dec 6, 2012 22:30:19 GMT 10
OK I'll have another look, a few people have reccomended it to me now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 20:01:18 GMT 10
the economists are corrupt The GOP are corrupt!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 20:01:35 GMT 10
From the Los Angeles Times....John Boehner's biggest struggle may be with his own right-wingersBy DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM - Friday, December 07, 2012BEFORE he gets to the fiscal cliff, Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) will have to traverse the conservative chasm.
On one side of the growing rift stand pragmatic conservatives such as Ann Coulter and Bill Kristol who say Republicans should give ground and let President Obama raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of Americans. On the other side stand hard-line conservatives such as Senator Jim DeMint (Republican-South Carolina), a gaggle of right-wing pundits and tea party diehards who shout, “Never give in!” Straddling this divide is Boehner, trying to hold his caucus together while offering a middle path that would raise revenue from the rich while holding down tax rates.
Boehner’s scheme to come up with $800 billion by closing tax loopholes for the wealthy has broad, if tenuous, support in the GOP caucus, but it is not a plan that has much chance of survival. It brings in only half the revenue that would come in if Bush-era tax cuts are allowed to expire as they are set to do on January 1st. President Obama and the Democrats are far more inclined to let that happen than to buy into Boehner’s vague plan for which no details have yet been provided. Meanwhile, conservative purists are already calling Boehner a traitor to the cause for offering to take away deductions and tax credits from the upper class.
Boehner has the support of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Republican-Virginia.) and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (Republican-Wisconsin), at least for now. But they are holding their noses. Neither guy is eager to raise revenue from the wallets of the rich. Cantor is as much a rival as an ally to Boehner, and Ryan, having come so close to the vice presidency as Mitt Romney’s running mate, has his own political future and White House aspirations to consider. Will Boehner still be able to count on them if he needs to sweeten the deal for Obama or will they begin looking out for themselves and their standing with the right-wingers?
Chances are, Boehner will not risk his job or the anti-tax orthodoxy of his party. He may say he remains willing to seek a comprehensive budget deal in the waning days of this lame duck Congress, but that is about as likely to happen as a gay marriage officiated by Mike Huckabee. That means all of the automatic tax hikes and budget cuts characterized as the “fiscal cliff” will begin to unroll, leaving it to the new Congress in the new year to forge an agreement with the president to roll back the draconian measures before the economy takes a dive.
If they cannot stop a tax hike for the wealthy in January, the more strident conservatives are already identifying the February deadline for raising the debt ceiling as their next point of leverage. Should the president not give them what they want in cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and other non-military programs, the most zealous conservatives appear willing to put the good credit of the United States at risk again. The last time they did that in 2011, the nation’s credit rating was downgraded. This time the result could be worse.
Is Boehner willing to go there again or will he take a tougher line with the fire-breathers in his caucus? In recent days, he removed four tea party Republicans from key committees as punishment for going rogue. One of those House members, Representative Tim Huelskamp of Kansas, called Boehner’s action “petty” and “vindictive.” In a speech at the conservative Heritage Foundation, Huelskamp said: "What this says is that dissent will not be tolerated, particularly conservative dissent."
It is remarkable how “conservative” keeps getting redefined to the right by the folks on the fringe of the GOP. The reality is that there are nothing but conservatives in Boehner’s caucus. It is just that some of them are responsible enough to seek a compromise with the president that will keep the government in business and the economy intact while others are willing let it all go up in flames if they cannot get their way.www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-john-boehner-struggle-20121206,0,2407398.story
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 18:03:57 GMT 10
the democrats are corrupt clinton was the lowest was not
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 18:44:52 GMT 10
First class response Buzzo.
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 9, 2012 19:36:11 GMT 10
the democrats are corrupt clinton was the lowest I can't think of worse presidents than either Bush.
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Post by garfield on Dec 9, 2012 20:05:47 GMT 10
Obama will end up being worse than all the rest put together.
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 9, 2012 21:37:45 GMT 10
He hasn't started any wars yet. We all thought Ronny Ray-gun would, but I reckon he has been by far the best republican president of the last 40 years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 10:28:14 GMT 10
From the Los Angeles Times....To avoid ‘fiscal cliff’, our leaders need to be better than we areBy DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM - Tuesday, December 11, 2012THIS BEING the Christmas season, I’m going to give the nation’s political leaders a little gift, an excuse for bringing America to the edge of a so-called fiscal cliff: They’re only human.
It’s easy to look back at other moments in our history when members of Congress should have been able to see the right path that is so obvious to us now. Back in 1865, when the House of Representatives was debating the 13th Amendment to the Constitution, how could any congressman not understand that owning another human being as property was utterly wrong? In the 1940s, how did so many leaders fail to recognize that confiscating the property of American citizens of Japanese descent and packing them off to internment camps was an injustice?
And today, on an issue that is far less weighty but not inconsequential, why can’t the people in charge in Washington get their act together and come up with a budget compromise before the deadline arrives for automatic, drastic program cuts and tax hikes that would blunt the economic recovery and make life more miserable for millions of people? Why can they not follow the Nike motto and “Just do it”?
Well, why are you boycotting a holiday dinner because some friend or relative was a jerk last year and you cannot forgive him? Why do you shun that co-worker whose politics are 180 degrees different than your own? Why do you hate the New York Yankees or think men are all pigs or insist that gays can be straightened out with a little therapy and prayer? It is because we are all human and human beings have shown an unending capacity to hold grudges, subscribe to idiotic ideologies, cling to tribal identities and go down fighting for foolish causes.
Politicians are no better than we are. They do not like to lose or give ground easily. They think they are right and the other side is not just wrong, but stupidly, mendaciously, even treasonously wrong. And perhaps more than Congresses of the not-too-distant past, our current Congress is filled with men and women who value dubious “principles” more than useful pragmatism and consider compromise an unusually long four-letter word.
We get the politicians we deserve. Legislators do mirror the electorate rather well. Given that about a fourth of voters have indicated in numerous polls that they believe crazy things — Saddam Hussein was responsible for the September 11th attacks; President Obama is a Muslim who wants to sell out America to terrorists; the Earth is 6,000 years old — it is no surprise that quite a few seats in the House and Senate chambers are filled by oddballs who believe crazy things too. And if conservatives in rural areas look at city folk as godless pagans and urban liberals look at people in the countryside as religious fanatics and gun-toting hicks, it is not surprising that liberals and conservatives in Congress have a tough time crossing the aisle and doing business together.
Our finest leaders have been people who are better than we are. Consider our best Republican presidents. They have been men who were bigger than their party — Abraham Lincoln, who rose beyond the pervasive racism of his time and enlarged his view of humanity; Theodore Roosevelt, who recognized a value in America’s natural splendors far beyond their commercial exploitation; Ronald Reagan, who set aside his reflexive anti-communism and seized the opportunity to help end the Cold War.
If, in the coming weeks, a grand bargain is struck that puts the country on a more sound fiscal path, it will be because a few key leaders have found it in themselves to be a little smarter, a little more empathetic and a little more forward-thinking than the average member of the human race. Conversely, if we all careen over the fiscal cliff with no brakes on, it will mean our so-called leaders are just being all too human.www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-our-leaders-20121210,0,2319073.story
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 14:30:39 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2012 1:06:18 GMT 10
From the Los Angeles Times....Do not pity the rich; they can handle higher taxesBy DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM - Friday, December 21, 2012THE richest Americans might find lumps of coal in their stockings on Christmas morning and, if not that, then they can definitely anticipate big hangovers on New Year’s Day.
The metaphorical coal lumps and hangovers will be thanks to President Obama and Speaker of the House John Boehner, who are either going to strike a deal in the next few days to allow taxes to go up for the wealthy or let it happen automatically when the George W. Bush-era tax cuts expire January 1st. But one need not feel too sorry for these people because some of them actually own coal mines, others own distilleries and many, many more have wine cellars under their palatial homes. They also own yachts and ski chalets and beach homes and, as in the case of a certain failed presidential candidate, elevators for their luxury cars.
A few of them are the very people who deserve blame for the financial disaster of 2008 that hit the rest of Americans so hard, with the exception of all those other rich folk who skated through the long recession with portfolios and bank accounts bigger than ever. If they are forced back to paying the amount of federal taxes they paid in the 1990s, it will be like a tiny bump in the road under their golf carts rolling to the next green.
The unanswered question is simply how many of the rich will have to pay more. If there is no agreement on avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff, everyone with an income higher than $250,000 will get a boost in their tax bill. However, in negotiations for a budget deal, the president has shown a willingness to spare anyone earning less than $400,000. Boehner’s counter offer would set the line at $1 million, a compromise that has infuriated Rush Limbaugh, tea party purists, the Heritage Foundation, the Club for Growth and the most conservative members of the House Republican Caucus.
Surprisingly, Grover Norquist, the mandarin of the anti-tax movement, has given his approval to Boehner’s higher tax rate for millionaires on the curious reasoning that, because the speaker’s proposal simply allows the rate to bump back up on the coming expiration day, it is not really a tax increase. Funny, he is not saying this about the automatic tax hikes that would hit everyone, including the middle class, if Boehner and Obama fail to strike a deal.
In reality, if we are truly serious about bringing down the deficit that so worries Republicans and most Democrats, all of us should pay a little more. Letting rates go up only for rich people will help, but bringing the middle class back to the level paid during Bill Clinton’s presidency would bring in far more money. There is a reason these taxes are due to expire; when passed, everyone knew such a huge dip in revenue would very likely drive up the deficit.
That has come to pass. But now, there is really no chance the tax cut will be allowed to disappear for anyone making less than a quarter-million bucks. Even if the tax break lapses as 2013 dawns, it will be quickly restored by a frantic Congress terrified of wrathful voters — the same voters who, by big majorities, oppose any meaningful cuts to government programs or elimination of popular tax loopholes. Regarding steps to lower the deficit, the only thing a majority of voters do agree on is that rich people should pay more.
And so they most certainly will.www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-higher-taxes-20121220,0,2332866.story
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 21:48:25 GMT 10
Taxing the rich LOL, they calculated that if they they removed every single cent of Warren Buffet's wealth it would only run the US Government for a few weeks, trouble with taxing the rich is there really aint that many of them around unlike the poor, its so much easier to to get just a few dollars extra off the poor than it is to get a big wad of cash off the rich, of course that doesn't satisfy the burn the witch ( rich ) mentality does it?, and thats the current kooky human nature cycle we find ourselves in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 7:31:13 GMT 10
I know more about economics than you do you imbecile ROTFLMAO !!!!! despite hundreds of posts of doom and gloom prognostications, you've shown no real understanding of Economics what so ever Buzz.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 9:06:25 GMT 10
From the Los Angeles Times....New year likely to arrive with no rescue from the ‘fiscal cliff’By DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM - Thursday, 27 December 2012THE "fiscal cliff" looms ahead and it is a solid bet that no one will come up with a deal in time to stop the country from careening off the edge. Nearly everyone claims they want to avoid the automatic tax increases and massive budget cuts that will start kicking in on January 1st, but few are ready to make the compromises necessary to make that happen.
As expected, anti-tax purists in the House Republican Caucus have gotten in the way of Speaker John A. Boehner’s attempts to come up with a fix for the fiscal cliff. Last week, he withdrew his own Plan B rather than let it go to a vote he knew he would lose. Democrats were united in their opposition, but what really killed the scheme was the refusal of conservatives in Boehner’s own caucus to go along with a tax increase for millionaires.
Boehner now seems to have washed his hands of responsibility and says it is up to the president and Democrats in the Senate to save the country from the new year’s program cuts and tax increases that will come so fast and furiously that the economy could suffer. President Obama cut short his Hawaii vacation to return to the snow-covered capital hoping to concoct a last-minute deal, but he may have been better off staying with his wife and daughters on the sandy shores of Oahu.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reed will shortly offer an option he hopes Republicans cannot refuse. It will propose to do several popular things: perpetuate George W. Bush-era tax cuts for everyone earning less than $250,000 a year; keep Medicare reimbursement levels from dropping; preserve long-term unemployment benefits; stop a tax bracket slide that would expose many more citizens to the alternative minimum tax; and make a few modest spending reductions. Even if it does next to nothing about long-term budget deficits, there is nothing in Reed’s plan that would upset most voters.
If such a crowd-pleasing scheme got to the House and Boehner allowed a vote on it (as he seems to have said he would), Democrats might be joined by just enough Republicans to get the thing passed. The harder trick could be getting it anywhere in the Senate. It takes just one Republican die-hard to block Reed’s bill. A filibuster would only have to last until the ball drops in Times Square and 2013 would begin with the wrenching sound of an economy tumbling down a hillside.
Public opinion polls indicate Republicans are taking most of the heat for this impasse, but ultra-conservative GOP senators and House members do not fear the ire of the general public nearly as much as they quake with terror at the thought of enraging tea party zealots in their home districts. Conservative politicians would rather fly of the cliff than take a vote that would earn them opposition in the next Republican primary.
It would be nice to believe there is back-channel negotiating going on that even the Washington press corps has not uncovered. It would also be nice to believe Santa is back in his workshop tinkering on next year’s array of toys. Frankly, though, there is more evidence of elves at the North Pole than there is of a cooperative, constructive spirit rising in the halls of Congress.www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-new-year-rescue-20121226,0,5257801.story
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 10:14:19 GMT 10
Counting down to one of the greatest entertainment events of the early 21st century....not long to go now!
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