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Post by pim on Mar 10, 2017 9:22:21 GMT 10
Very manipulative! Floods a post with links to my so-called "sneers" and I still don't accept that you have a monopoly on what constitutes a "sneer" or even whether sneering per se constitutes "unacceptable" board behaviour. What's more it's not possible to discuss it with you because you descend into hair-splitting time-consuming bush-lawyer phoney legalisms. This is not a court of law and you are neither plaintiff or prosecutor. Who's going to look at all those links! What you're banking on is that your proverbial passing Martian would glance at them and think "Ooh looks bad!"
Hubris Man you take up more time than you're worth!
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 10, 2017 13:41:36 GMT 10
Oh please, Ed...
I've put up with sneering between you and your two buddys for over 3 years now. Gonna be honest with you, you're not going to gain much sympathy from me until I see some character development.
You are reaping what you sow.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 12, 2017 1:53:26 GMT 10
When are you going to deal with the bullying from Pim? Roughly the same time you and your wolfpack stop antagonizing people of faith. If you want the freedom to say whatever you want, your opponent has the right to do the same. That's how freedom of speech works.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 12, 2017 9:27:50 GMT 10
When are you going to deal with the bullying from Pim? Honestly, life is short and I have a limited amount of fucks to give. Whatever Jody decides, I'll back her up on it.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 23, 2017 11:05:00 GMT 10
Your "sneer" posts are bad. They make up just under 70% of your total posts. There is another way to view your just under 70% sneer rate ... Just click on the link and view your recent history ... scroll back and they are all there - easy to see. newstalkback1.proboards.com/user/7/recentSo I ask the mods: As a general principle - is it better to deal with the bully when there is clear evidence of bullying, or is it better to "victim blame"? When you have examined your thoughts on the general principle, apply that to this specific case of Pim's sneering / bullying. There are 4 main "victims" and there is one bully. How are you dealing with it? Sorry, but this reminds me of a South Park episode.
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Post by KTJ on Mar 23, 2017 11:26:08 GMT 10
So when are you going to PROVE that your god is real and not merely a delusion inside your mind?
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Post by pim on Mar 23, 2017 14:24:29 GMT 10
Never, KTJ, not according to your lights at any rate. So where does that leave you? You've been trolling the board since your first spam post on the Religion Board on Sep 27, 2012 which was 4½ years ago newstalkback1.proboards.com/post/34/quote/15 Seems to me that there comes a time when a troll has to ask himself a few questions about the futility of it all. So where to from here KTJ? Carry on trolling? My first post on the Religion Board still applies today ... Whatever is said about atheism from here on, whether for or against, should bear in mind what Bertrand Russell, who was an atheist of integrity up there with Albert Camus, had to say about what it means to be an atheist: A true atheist is one who neither believes nor disbelieves, someone who quite simply does not care. What comes after death is after death, I will or won't find out then.'Tis said that on his deathbed Russell asked for a particular Catholic priest who was an old friend and intellectual sparring partner. This priest, whose name I don't know, had told Russell in one of their debates on the existence of God, that the imminence of death tends to focus an atheist's mind wonderfully and that many professed atheists experience a deathbed conversion. The story goes that when the priest arrived at the bedside of the dying Bertrand Russel, Russell looked him in the eye and said "There is no God!" And died. Love that story. Can't confirm its truth value though. I'm impressed by Russell's point that a true atheist's response to the question "Does God exist?" should be one of indifference. It exposes the sophistry, and gives the lie to the dogmatic claim by religionists that atheism is some sort of "religion", and on the other hand holds up a mirror to those self-proclaimed "atheists" who attack religion and lampoon faith, and reveals them as frauds and charlatans. The intellectual basis for their phony "atheism" is so shallow and empty that they probably will do as bertrand Russell's priest friend predicted, and undergo a deathbed conversion.
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Post by pim on Mar 23, 2017 14:50:30 GMT 10
I know, KTJ will sidestep the question - which really does deserve an answer by the way - and deflect onto my c & p by going on about "not being an atheist". Which of course would be more trolling. Since we've seen this tactic time out of number from you. I'm just letting you know that it's all getting a bit hackneyed. I don't care whether you call yourself an "atheist" or not. What's clear is that you're part of the trolling culture that's taken over the Religion Board.
Sneering? Of course I'm bloody sneering! And you deserve every bit of it. Destructive? Your tedious trolling is certainly destructive of the Religion Board. Newsflash! I'd like a troll free Religion Board that attracts people like Fat back to the board, and maybe other non trolls of good will, so that people of faith, agnostics and, yes, atheists, can actually talk to each other. According to you trolls, atheists and believers have nothing to say to each other except insults and contempt. You're wrong. In my view you three are the flip side of religious trolls like Matt whose only purpose in coming here was to chant his mantras. But in the end it amounted to the same thing - trolling. People like you three are obstacles to a board like this realising its potential.
So, KTJ, where to from here? You're not getting anywhere with your spamming and trolling. So what do you want from the board? You want it to shut down? No Religion Board? That's fair enough but in that case have the honesty to say so. Or is your aim darker and more sinister? You come here to troll, doncha!
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Post by KTJ on Mar 23, 2017 15:16:24 GMT 10
Religion almost certainly had its place for human beings back during the dark-ages, but we are now in the 21st century where we can use science to explain things instead of falling back on a magician floating around up in the sky to explain away stuff humans cannot comprehend.
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Post by pim on Mar 23, 2017 20:30:57 GMT 10
No, tell us something new. We've heard that line too many times before. You're trying to pretend that there's some sort of "debate" about the place of religious faith in society and so - dishonestly and disingenuously because you know exactly what you're doing - you attempt to sidestep the question I pose by pretending it's about something else. Newsflash: you're full of trolling bullshit! This isn't about the place of religious faith in society, this is about what the fuck is your purpose in being here trolling the same old bullshit for the past four and a half years. So? Where to for you now? Carry on trolling?
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 23, 2017 20:43:57 GMT 10
So when are you going to PROVE that your god is real and not merely a delusion inside your mind? That's your philosophy, not ours. "For we live by faith, not by sight." 2 Corinthians 5:7
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Post by KTJ on Mar 23, 2017 20:47:53 GMT 10
So if somebody tells you they are god, then you are going to have the faith to believe them and NOT demand proof?
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Post by pim on Mar 23, 2017 22:51:32 GMT 10
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Post by caskur on Mar 24, 2017 9:04:37 GMT 10
So when are you going to PROVE that your god is real and not merely a delusion inside your mind? God isn't for you. You're not wanted... I'm not trying to be mean or anything... you just need to accept your lot and be satisfied with that. Honestly... why argue about it?
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Post by KTJ on Mar 24, 2017 9:15:30 GMT 10
So who would want me?
Those Jehovah's Witness retards?
Or the fundy Baptists?
Or the Roman Catholics?
Nah, I wouldn't want them, or any of the other similar organisations. They are houses of straw worshipping an unproven delusion.
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Post by pim on Mar 24, 2017 11:34:20 GMT 10
I'm always polite to the JWs and Mormons when they come calling. Rudeness is not necessary because in my experience they accept a firm & polite NO. I'm not interested in the JWs millennial stuff or the Mormons with their American hubris that when Christ had finished his ministry in Judea he did it all again in America. But apparently during WW1 and WW2 the JWs suffered for their conscientious objection to military service. The Nazis especially were nasty to them and threw them into concentration camps after the Gestapo were through with them. Took courage! More than you'd have! I don't agree with them but I don't disrespect them.
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Post by caskur on Mar 24, 2017 17:05:11 GMT 10
So who would want me? Those Jehovah's Witness retards? Or the fundy Baptists? Or the Roman Catholics? Nah, I wouldn't want them, or any of the other similar organisations. They are houses of straw worshipping an unproven delusion. Nobody wants you, crikey... Although since at one time you worked at an abattoir the Muslims might like you for 1... your lifetime's accumulated wealth... and 2. Your ability to slit throats. 3 your knowlege of railways. Actually, on my Storm Chasers Group, I have a Victorian lady who is part owner of a train...
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Post by caskur on Mar 24, 2017 17:08:44 GMT 10
I'm always polite to the JWs and Mormons when they come calling. Rudeness is not necessary because in my experience they accept a firm & polite NO. I'm not interested in the JWs millennial stuff or the Mormons with their American hubris that when Christ had finished his ministry in Judea he did it all again in America. But apparently during WW1 and WW2 the JWs suffered for their conscientious objection to military service. The Nazis especially were nasty to them and threw them into concentration camps after the Gestapo were through with them. Took courage! More than you'd have! I don't agree with them but I don't disrespect them. The difference between JW and Mormons is this... The JWs got their "millennial stuff" straight out of Revelation in the Bible... and the Mormons made up a new book and followed that rather than their Bibles...
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 11, 2017 13:35:25 GMT 10
So much material to work with, but I'll start with your hypocrisy first: You claim that I make light of mental illness, presumably because I described you as 'delusional'. Well, if you knew anything about the English language, you would know that 'delusional' means someone who is unable to understand the difference between 'rea' and 'not real' (like yourself). And as for the hypocrisy? In this very topic appears this post: Where was your criticism of Pim using exactly the same word in exactly the same context as me? Oh, that's right, you're a fair Mod and you only criticize those you disagree with and who you can't out-argue with facts. As for bullying you? Oh dear, pointing out that you put up a fake news story and believed it to be true. This not bullying, it is pointing out reality to you and you refusing to accept it. You seem to be under this perpetual delusion ( there it is again) that when someone points out where you are wrong, that they are bullying you. Simply solution - accept it when you make a mistake, own it and don't then try to hide your embarrassment by deleting the evidence! That is the truth that you are incapable of dealing with. Have a wonderful day. Slarti, You really need to stop. This isn't a game. You made the post with the purpose to antagonize me, you sought negative attention and you got what you came for. You don't need to humiliate a person just because you disagree with them; and a disagreements don't automatically make enemies. Mistake or no, I don't think anyone deserves to be bullied and ridiculed for what they say. Nor do they need to be reminded and belittled for a lapse in judgement. I pointed out the giant octopus was a hoax, but that wasn't enough for you. You needed to get your rocks off by trying to humiliate me. I erased that thread and I had Jody's support in doing so.You were in the wrong, and now you need to own it Full stop. I'm now saying desist. To push me further is considered harassment which contravenes the TOS. Want a vacation? Push me just a little bit further... I DARE you. I permanently removed Buzz, and I actually liked him. Think I won't do the same to you? See what you don't comment on, Pim? If I replied to this with the truth and what really happened, I would get expelled. Do you see who is being threatening and obsessive? I get accused of bullying. Do you see bullying? Do you know who brought the topic of the squid up? I'll give you a clue. It was not me. Do you defend my rights? No. I rest my case.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Apr 11, 2017 18:34:39 GMT 10
...The weasel is crying 'foul' for being caught in the henhouse, again. People like Slarti often forget that they alone choose how they wish to spend their time. If one decides to spend their time shouting and kicking dirt at the ref's feet; consequently they risk getting thrown out of the game. Consequences. I can't be held responsible for that.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 11, 2017 20:25:17 GMT 10
You don't take responsibility for anything.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Apr 11, 2017 20:32:20 GMT 10
You don't take responsibility for anything. No mirrors in your house,eh?
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 11, 2017 20:48:11 GMT 10
I'm sorry mate, but you have no idea how to run a board.
I have. I have previously managed a board that had nearly 500 members at one stage, not seven active members like this one.
You do not treat everyone as equal.
You threaten, you bully, you abuse your power.
You make up stories.
The squid thing?
I'd forgotten all about it till you brought it up years later.
You published the story. You were told by me it was fake news. You refused to believe it. You were told by others it was fake news. You refused to believe it.
Eventually the penny dropped and you realised that you'd bought a giant lemon.
By then you had painted yourself in a corner. You were too proud to admit your mistake till it was too late.
And then................ you deleted the evidence!
That shows us your character 100%.
And now you blame me for it when you were the one that mentioned it again, not me.
Just brilliant!
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Post by Occam's Spork on Apr 13, 2017 11:09:38 GMT 10
No Slarti, I asked you politely to stop, but you continued to harass.
THAT is bullying, and that's why I erased it; with Jody's support.
Interesting philosophy you have. Do you reallyvbelieve everything needs to be fair? Do you believe a mocking idiot present only to ridicule and antagonize ought to have the same hearing as someone who demonstrates intelligence and respectfully adds to the conversation ?
.. Does everyone at your workplace earn the same wage, Slarti?
What colour is the sky in that fantasy world of yours?
As for the rest of your rant , it's just white noise since we have nothing but your boasting to support it.
If you are so discontent with how the board is run, I suggest you shove off before I do all the hard work for ya! Think that's an empty threat? Try me. End of discussion.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 13, 2017 11:44:49 GMT 10
No Slarti, I asked you politely to stop, but you continued to harass. THAT is bullying, and that's why I erased it; with Jody's support. No, you erased it because you made an idiot of yourself and you know that! You did not ask me to 'politely stop'. Everyone knows that's a lie, as you have never been polite. I refer you to your sexual slurs on me. And why delete the evidence if at allegedly shows me in a bad light and you in a good light? Yeah, like anyone is going to believe that with your track record of indiscriminate deletions. Interesting philosophy you have. Do you reallyvbelieve everything needs to be fair? Oh good, you finally admit that you're not fair. Do you believe a mocking idiot present only to ridicule and antagonize ought to have the same hearing as someone who demonstrates intelligence and respectfully adds to the conversation ? I wouldn't describe you as a mocking idiot, as that would give other mocking idiots a bad name. I would certainly not describe you as someone who adds intelligence and adding to any conversation. Unless of course, putting up thousands of internet googled pictures and gifs somehow adds to any conversation. .. Does everyone at your workplace earn the same wage, Slarti? What colour is the sky in that fantasy world of yours? And what relevance is that? Adding to the conversation again with intelligence, are you? No - this is bullying! If you are so discontent with how the board is run, I suggest you shove off before I do all the hard work for ya! Think that's an empty threat? Try me. End of discussion. And Jody runs the board very well, I don't know how she chose you as an offsider. You give inept a new definition.
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