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Post by matt on Oct 22, 2012 17:08:02 GMT 10
Too many Australian, American and British troops have died in this war which cannot be won.
It is impossible to bring Afghanistan into the enlightenment and it will forever be stuck in the 7th century.
Wouldn't it be more efficient to leave and drop a few hydrogen bombs so that the terrorists are eliminated fully?
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Post by spindrift on Oct 22, 2012 17:31:41 GMT 10
There is uncertainty as to whether a good outcome can be achieved in Afghanistan, not much doubt about that.
What matters and has to be considered the experts are still saying that the Afghan troops can succeed with more training, and another year should see the troops in control tackling the Taliban by themselves.
The honorable thing is to see it through for at least another 6 months until a clear decision can be made one way or the other.
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Post by jody on Oct 22, 2012 18:40:48 GMT 10
Just leave, no nukes need to be dropped
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 22, 2012 18:42:21 GMT 10
Should never ever have gone there in the first place! Thanks for the lies, John hoWARd.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2012 9:24:53 GMT 10
I agreed with the war in Afghanistan. I really believed that democracy could be introduced and the people would enjoy better lives where women were considered equal citizens and would receive an education and other benefits.
How wrong could I be!!
These people are as Matt stated ... still stuck in the 7th century and refuse to budge. Women are simply chattels and they will not accept that females can be equals. They live their lives as Mohammed lived his ... but if they weren't absolute hypocrites opposed to change, they'd be fighting with swords rather than AK47s.
I believe we should just leave ... but not before bombing those wretched poppy fields that fund the Taliban and their nefarious activities.
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Post by chequeredflaggg on Oct 23, 2012 13:37:11 GMT 10
Should never ever have gone there in the first place! Thanks for the lies, John hoWARd. I think you're confusing Afghanistan with Iraq, Slarti. ;D ;D ;D ;D even you see what Ive been saying about this senile idiot, Dogger Phil... ;D
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Post by chequeredflaggg on Oct 23, 2012 13:48:16 GMT 10
I agreed with the war in Afghanistan. I really believed that democracy could be introduced and the people would enjoy better lives where women were considered equal citizens and would receive an education and other benefits. How wrong could I be!! These people are as Matt stated ... still stuck in the 7th century and refuse to budge. Women are simply chattels and they will not accept that females can be equals. They live their lives as Mohammed lived his ... but if they weren't absolute hypocrites opposed to change, they'd be fighting with swords rather than AK47s. I believe we should just leave ... but not before bombing those wretched poppy fields that fund the Taliban and their nefarious activities. no, see we have two things. the fighting has been less decisive and we have lost many fine people who probably neednt have been lost, because of ridiculous blue-helmet namby style ROE , which are just wholly inappropriate to this conflict. Should have been far far nastier to the actual Pashtun Talliban and foreign fighters such as the vermin from Uzbeckistan etc.. FFS have you seen whats happening to the Brits who shot some wounded militant? Virtually on trial for their lives, what absolute fucking horseshit. Having said that, there is no doubt at all that a very great number of militants have been taken out by various means. But meanwhile, they do give the impression from various western reporters, that bands of these vermin can still move around the countryside with visible arms, in broad daylight, with apparent impunity.These ****s on their scooters, or technicals full of them, who should be able to be engaged by some means virtually as soon as they stick their turbans up. Meanwhile, the 'nation-building" was always futile, and who didnt know that it would be, FFS..I think even some of the Leftards know that much. the only reason to stick around , is to not give the Zoids the impression of lifting skirts and running, because of casualty lists which are still very modest. Some will say we're only shoring up US/Western prestige...and i can understand it looking that way...but dont make that sound like such an unworthwhile payoff in itself. there is something to be said for shoring up US 'prestige".
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 23, 2012 21:33:03 GMT 10
No, we should never have gone there ,Phil. The Russians could have told us that too!
You don't "win" in Afghanistan.
The people who sent our soldiers to get killed there have blood on their hands. For what? What have we achieved? It's still a shithole.
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Post by garfield on Oct 24, 2012 5:43:18 GMT 10
Yep its a shithole alright and the people there by and large are backward ass 7th century goat herders stuck in a time warp so whats your answer .... ship them all to Australia and put them on the dole.
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Post by spindrift on Oct 24, 2012 5:58:50 GMT 10
It will be wrong to abandon Afghanistan when the objective is no near to its end.
The US should not have interfered and rendered support for the religious extremist in the first place, whats done is done Australia cannot pull the pin now.
Lesson learned do not cow-tail to the US and its interference in other nations matters that lead to war as what will happen with Iran if Romney wins office.
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Post by garfield on Oct 24, 2012 6:01:41 GMT 10
Yep don't intefere in othere countries affairs America, just let them be taken over by commies and terrorists instead like the left want.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 6:03:23 GMT 10
Matt has the knack of putting his slant on the poll question doesn't he?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 7:20:26 GMT 10
Yep its a shithole alright and the people there by and large are backward ass 7th century goat herders stuck in a time warp so whats your answer .... ship them all to Australia and put them on the dole. That seems to be the plan so far.
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 24, 2012 11:30:44 GMT 10
If we didn't bomb the crap out of them, they'd have no reason to try to come here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 11:42:34 GMT 10
If we didn't bomb the crap out of them, they'd have no reason to try to come here. When did we bomb the Somalis?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 14:05:36 GMT 10
The Afghans saw off the Poms.
The Afghans saw off the Soviets.
And the Afghans will see off the current crusaders/invaders.
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Post by garfield on Oct 24, 2012 14:05:55 GMT 10
Or the Sri Lankans ... I think what he means is if we didn't have a labor government they'd have no reason to come here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 14:24:53 GMT 10
The Afghans saw off the Poms. The Afghans saw off the Soviets. And the Afghans will see off the current crusaders/invaders. Totally infantile analysis. Crusaders? Looks like you're using gobbelesque spin on things. Perhaps Mullah Omar could pay you for your propaganda services? Then again why should he he's getting your services for free anyway. Besides you stated on a previous occasion that you supported the invasion of Afghanistan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 14:58:10 GMT 10
I betcha I'm shown to be correct.
I betcha the invaders leave Afghanistan (just like the Poms and the Soviets before them), then I betcha the current Afghan government falls.
Unlike YOU I take notice of history. And history tells us what will occur in Afghanistan.
I note that you cheered when Iraq was invaded too. Yet YOU were too gutless to put your own life on the line in Iraq, instead hiding safe & sound in Western Australia while others died and were maimed on your behalf.
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 24, 2012 22:04:52 GMT 10
If we didn't bomb the crap out of them, they'd have no reason to try to come here. When did we bomb the Somalis? The topic is Afghanistan.
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 24, 2012 22:05:34 GMT 10
Matt has the knack of putting his slant on the poll question doesn't he? Yes, let's just say he makes them impossible to answer.
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Post by garfield on Oct 24, 2012 22:29:29 GMT 10
Remember Kev07 and how he was going to get the troops out of Afghanistan once he was elected, the lying c#nt, just like his assassin gillard, full of shit!
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Post by garfield on Oct 24, 2012 22:33:26 GMT 10
And lets not forget also that wars are no longer winnable thanks to the western media and the left which run the enemies propaganda arm for them, shit theres even a taliban cheer squad right here on this board.
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Post by slartibartfast on Oct 24, 2012 22:38:54 GMT 10
Now you are being silly (even for you).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 23:10:41 GMT 10
And lets not forget also that wars are no longer winnable thanks to the western media and the left which run the enemies propaganda arm for them, shit theres even a taliban cheer squad right here on this board. Aint that the truth, look at the hysteria about David Hicks, ratbag is caught guarding a Taliban tank by the Northern Alliance and you'd think he was a saint by the hysteria written by some on this board. Not to mention the crocodile tears because Guantanamo bay camp X-ray didnt offer the same standard of accomodation as the Marriot or Hilton executive suites. Some of our political redheads were very concerned about that.
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