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Post by slartibartfast on Mar 23, 2015 22:10:46 GMT 10
A new study has come out, care to comment on that, dingbat? I agree with pim I especially don't believe the question of God's existence will be resolved by amateur philosophers on an Internet discussion board. So in response to your question: My answer is 'no'. Now please go be irrelevant elsewhere. If you want to call yourself an amateur, you're probably over rating yourself. Now if I am not mistaken, this topic is about the supposed decline of Atheism and has nothing to do with proving God's existence or non-existence. Is this just further proof of your inability to grasp simple concepts? It seems so.
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Post by pim on Mar 24, 2015 6:24:35 GMT 10
It's a stupid thread topic and, typically, it was launched in the first instance 18 months ago by a very stupid, very manipulative and very agenda-laden troll. If you've the time and the inclination, scroll back over the 9 pages of posts since Aug 2013. In that time has the thread actually succeeded in establishing what Skippy asserts? Mind you Skippy never ever develops an argument. It's more in his style to make some grandiose and gratuitous claim, c & p some sort of tendentious op ed from some white supremacist or fundamentalist biblical literalist rag, and then piss off, coming back only to whinge that (a) Nobody is actually addressing the c & p while ignoring the fact that he hasn't addressed it either because all he's done is post it, and (b) whining that we're all picking on him and ... what's that expression he uses? ... "shooting the messenger" - which of course begs the point that some messengers badly need shooting!
On the other hand maybe you're of the view that you've better things to do than to scroll back over 9 pages of this silly thread, and you might be right!
This thread has no more succeeded in "proving" any decline in atheism (how would you measure such a decline, and how statistically reliable could it be? The margin for error would be so huge as to render the exercise meaningless) than it has succeeded in "proving" the existence/non-existence of God. What it has done is provide another platform for grandstanding, personal point-scoring and hurling insults.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 29, 2015 3:13:38 GMT 10
I fail to see the relevance of this topic:
A lie is still a lie if everyone believes it; and the truth is still the truth, if nobody does. Ergo, it's a pointless argument.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 29, 2015 3:20:47 GMT 10
What it has done is provide another platform for grandstanding, personal point-scoring and hurling insults. ...Isn't that often the entire point of Slarti's posts?
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Post by slartibartfast on Mar 29, 2015 7:01:19 GMT 10
What it has done is provide another platform for grandstanding, personal point-scoring and hurling insults. ...Isn't that often the entire point of Slarti's posts? No, that's what you do with your insulting photos! Pot, Kettle etc
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 29, 2015 10:35:23 GMT 10
...Isn't that often the entire point of Slarti's posts? No, that's what you do with your insulting photos! Pot, Kettle etc A valid point, to be certain. It's an overindulgence to acknowledge you at all.
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Post by pim on Mar 29, 2015 11:17:33 GMT 10
Then don't acknowledge him. If you feed the troll ...
It does take two!!
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Post by pim on Mar 29, 2015 14:56:25 GMT 10
Which of them is the bigger "troll"? So the "debate" (in all its sterile aridity - or arid sterility if you prefer) is not about which one of the two is the troll, but which one of the two is the bigger troll. Both of them conforming to the descrptor "troll". Or put it another way, on the principle of "if the cap fits, wear it" you're arguing that it isn't about which one gets to wear the cap, but which one gets to wear the bigger cap.
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Post by KTJ on Mar 29, 2015 18:58:17 GMT 10
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Post by Occam's Spork on Mar 30, 2015 3:27:14 GMT 10
Which of them is the bigger "troll"? Suddenly, a new contender enters the ring...
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 3, 2015 10:04:31 GMT 10
No, that's what you do with your insulting photos! Pot, Kettle etc A valid point, to be certain. It's an overindulgence to acknowledge you at all. You have to acknowledge me when I constantly beat your weak arguments.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Apr 4, 2015 7:38:08 GMT 10
Suddenly, a new contender enters the ring... Well, Occam's ... it appears that your sole purpose in posting to this board is to attack Slarti. ...And what do you call this blatant antagonism? I guess this is a part where I am supposed to defend myself, thereby undercutting my own defense? Sorry to disappoint. I know when I am being lured.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 4, 2015 8:59:08 GMT 10
Well, Occam's ... it appears that your sole purpose in posting to this board is to attack Slarti. ...And what do you call this blatant antagonism? I guess this is a part where I am supposed to defend myself, thereby undercutting my own defense? Sorry to disappoint. I know when I am being lured. This topic was started with blatant antagonism, not by me! And I'm really sorry that I have to defend myself against over-zealous censorship!
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Post by Occam's Spork on Apr 4, 2015 11:47:44 GMT 10
No... I took THIS as a personal attack. Typical. Has nothing to say but a stupid photo. A new study has come out, care to comment on that, dingbat? Your move.
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Post by pim on Apr 4, 2015 12:11:28 GMT 10
Occam you've touched on a feature of the Australian modus operandi that most Australians themselves aren't aware of and are therefore in denial about. Just as casual racism in everyday Australian speech is so glib that it doesn't rate to the person doing it as racism, so they'll hotly deny that they're being racist when in fact they are being deeply and profoundly racist, by the same token Australians will resort so glibly to casual gratuitous personal abuse that it doesn't rate to them as personal abuse so they'll hotly deny that they're being gratuitous and offensive. It's the Great Australian Shallowness, where the only fruit worth picking is of the low-hanging variety. There was a NZ prime minister, admittedly a not-very-pleasant character called "Piggy" Muldoon, who nevertheless when questioned about the numbers of New Zealanders leaving NZ to find opportunities for themselves in Australia, responded with a quip that I still think was a clever one-liner: "That'll just increase the average IQ in both countries!"
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Post by Occam's Spork on Apr 5, 2015 9:40:05 GMT 10
Nothing I say will change your blatantly flawed opinion, so we'll leave it at that, EG.
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Post by Occam's Spork on Apr 5, 2015 9:54:25 GMT 10
Occam you've touched on a feature of the Australian modus operandi that most Australians themselves aren't aware of and are therefore in denial about. Just as casual racism in everyday Australian speech is so glib that it doesn't rate to the person doing it as racism, so they'll hotly deny that they're being racist when in fact they are being deeply and profoundly racist, by the same token Australians will resort so glibly to casual gratuitous personal abuse that it doesn't rate to them as personal abuse so they'll hotly deny that they're being gratuitous and offensive. It's the Great Australian Shallowness, where the only fruit worth picking is of the low-hanging variety. There was a NZ prime minister, admittedly a not-very-pleasant character called "Piggy" Muldoon, who nevertheless when questioned about the numbers of New Zealanders leaving NZ to find opportunities for themselves in Australia, responded with a quip that I still think was a clever one-liner: "That'll just increase the average IQ in both countries!" Thank you, Pim. It all makes sense now. There is an interesting Principle called "The Dunning-Kruger effect", that certainly applies here.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 5, 2015 10:18:57 GMT 10
The dumbo effect applies to you!
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 8, 2015 7:28:52 GMT 10
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Post by KTJ on Apr 9, 2015 11:09:54 GMT 10
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Post by slartibartfast on Dec 8, 2015 6:32:56 GMT 10
Bumped for Pim.
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Post by pim on Dec 8, 2015 10:28:35 GMT 10
Thanks slarti, I remember now. Given that the thread hasn't been posted on since last April it's not surprising that it had slipped my mind.
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Post by pim on Dec 8, 2015 19:23:22 GMT 10
Did I just hear a flea fart?
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Post by pim on Dec 8, 2015 19:30:01 GMT 10
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Post by slartibartfast on Jun 29, 2017 7:36:36 GMT 10
I wonder if Skippy choked on his Wheeties when he read the census results. Will probably go well with the egg on the faces of those who agreed with him.😀
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