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Post by geopol on Apr 17, 2013 6:00:21 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 6:56:25 GMT 10
Pandering to the rich is a fundamental ideology or indeed may I dare say an ideologue of the conservative party....under Abbott expect more crime as the unemployment rate rises with welfare recipients receiving less in services, education and health funding skewed to favour the private sector....the big miners reaping massive profits while the poor get kicked in the guts....while the RW members here will justify it all and applaud this direction and leadership..  |
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Post by geopol on Apr 17, 2013 7:53:43 GMT 10
They will also whinge loudly about the decline of decency in Australia and blame the unions, the ALP or the bloody refugees. They can't think beyond their next whine.....
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Post by sonex on Apr 17, 2013 9:33:30 GMT 10
Kill the Poor says Liberal Strategist. Excerpt. "An article published by a Liberal Party-aligned think tank that advocates killing off the poorest 20 per cent of Australians as a way to get the budget back on track has been described as a ''disgraceful rant'' by Treasurer Wayne Swan. A ''modest cull of the enormously poor'' has been suggested by right-wing business lobbyist Toby Ralph in a tongue-in-cheek opinion piece written in reaction to the federal government's attack on the ''fabulously wealthy'' through superannuation taxes. A modest cull would strike at the root of our fiscal dilemma. ''In contrast to the fabulously rich, the enormously poor make little useful contribution to society,'' wrote Mr Ralph, a long-time Liberal Party campaign strategist. ''They consume more than they contribute, putting tremendous strain on the national budget. Advertisement ''A modest cull would strike at the root of our fiscal dilemma. If the least productive 20 per cent of citizens were decommissioned it would directly release a recurrent $25 billion, which would almost cover overspending by the Gillard government between now and September 14th, assuming Mr Swan maintains his long-term average rate of profligacy. ''This bold initiative would rid us of indolent students, hapless single mums, lower-order drug dealers, social workers, performance artists, Greenpeace supporters and the remaining processing personnel in our collapsing yet heavily subsidised manufacturing industries.'' Mr Ralph's bloody prescription for national economic recovery was written strictly as satire, he told Fairfax Media, saying ''some people want to be offended''. Read more: www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/kill-poor-to-fix-budget-writes-lobbyist-with-liberal-links-20130416-2hygv.html#ixzz2QfjY5sBn |
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Post by garfield on Apr 17, 2013 9:56:34 GMT 10
LOL ... but politics and humor just doesn't work does it, all that happens is some idiot tries to make out a joke is actually fair dinkum party policy.
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Post by garfield on Apr 17, 2013 10:02:38 GMT 10
But retaining the copper network IS party policy!!! ;D LOL yep ;D and the only people that care are idiots like you that wouldn't vote for Tony even if his broadband plan was ten times better than Labors ;D |
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Post by pim on Apr 17, 2013 10:48:10 GMT 10
LOL ... but politics and humor just doesn't work does it, all that happens is some idiot tries to make out a joke is actually fair dinkum party policy. There was a superb tongue-in-cheek article years ago in the Rationalist magazine (it's a quarterly. Don't read it, Garfield! It's into nuance!) during the darkest days of the Howard Tyranny, which was in many ways a continuation of the Hawke/Keating Tyranny with its privatisations and deregulations, when hosannas were being sung, and paeans of praise were being chorused, for the virtues of individual private enterprise. You know the sort of thing. Both major parties are into it. Garfield wants to convince you that Labor is "socialist" but he is clueless and full of his own blinkered ideological shit. Labor is every bit as much a party of capitalism as the Liberals are, and the Liberals are just as capable of being "socialist" as somebody like, say, Jack Lang (another faux "socialist"). For both Labor and Liberal and Gina Rinehart + clones, socialism is what you resort to when capitalism needs to be bailed out. The doctrine that all sides of Australian politics accept as a matter of faith is "socialise losses and privatise gains". But I digress. Back to the Rationalist. From time to time Liberals like to strike an ideological pose and proclaim themselves as a party of individual enterprise. Like they want the rest of us to believe they "own" the concept. So at such times they wax lyrical about "competition" and "individualism" which they proclaim to be the virtues of "their" side as opposed to the drab "collectivism" of that lefty Labor mob. According to this spiel, the private sector invariably does it better and the public sector will invariably cost more and will be ineficient. Just as the sheep in that parable/fairy tale about the horrors of Stalinist Russia, the novella Animal Farm would bleat over and over "Four legs good / Two legs b-a-a-a-d!" the bleating of these Liberal ideologues is "private sector good / public sector b-a-a-a-d!" Enter the Rationalist magazine with an article extolling the virtues of privatisation and castigating the government for not taking it far enough. It's not enough, scolded the Rationalist, for this institution to be privatised and for that government service to be outsourced. The people need to be brought to embrace the virtues of privatisation in a very personal way, urged the Rationalist by privatising themselves. In effect, the Rationalist was advocating slavery. The article was accompanied by a Patrick Cook cartoon with John Howard contemplating the word "Slavery" ablaze in neon lights with a look of awe and wonder on his face and exclaiming "Now why didn't I think of that?!?"  |
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Post by geopol on Apr 17, 2013 14:51:51 GMT 10
The Liberals have no sense of humour at all when it comes to the poor, the indolent, the workers, the lazy, the lefties, funny looking aliens etc. Trust me with this one!( The proof of that delicious pudding will be evident later this year and in the next few!)
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Post by garfield on Apr 17, 2013 15:11:03 GMT 10
Its not 1930 ya fuckin fossil |
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Post by garfield on Apr 17, 2013 15:13:52 GMT 10
I know a lot about the parlous state of the copper network. The biggest threat to the copper network is the f***in drug addicts ripping it all up to buy drugs ;D. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:12:59 GMT 10
The coalition buying back the ol' telstra copper network smacks of something shifty, equal to Obeid's shifty coal deals, some in the coalition must have a lot of Telstra shares ...how else could you explain it.
Garfunkel is so far behind with what is going on in the world and will say anything to support Abboots he doesn't realise the copper network that was being stolen by crims was from the overhead electricity wires ...a fuse short of a spark this bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 18:16:42 GMT 10
Garfy proving, yet again, just how out of his depth he is with his comments about copper wire.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 18:18:56 GMT 10
Garfys preferred solution, is to have fridge sized "nodes" on the end of every street, that's powered by car batteries, and a target for every two-bit vandal and thief in Town.
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Post by garfield on Apr 17, 2013 20:39:46 GMT 10
he doesn't realise the copper network that was being stolen by crims was from the overhead electricity wires ...a fuse short of a spark this bloke. What do you call this then ya fuckin idiot ... SCRAP metal dealer and convicted armed robber Wayne Battaglini pleaded guilty yesterday to stealing copper wire and damaging Telstra property worth $110,000, Newcastle Local Court heard. Battaglini, 50, stole copper cabling from sites at Toronto, Belmont and Arcadia Vale in October and November last year as well as more than a kilometre of wire from under Maitland Road, Mayfield, police facts said. The Arcadia Vale theft disrupted telephone services to 260 homes and 140 businesses in the Wangi Wangi area. The total damage bill to Telstra reached $109,036 with the potential to be greater once all repairs were completed, the statement said. |
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Post by pim on Apr 17, 2013 21:12:26 GMT 10
It means that copper is very expensive. It isn't just used in electrical wires. But rolls of electrical wiring lying about are an obvious target for copper thieves. I have a little knowledge here - albeit 2nd hand. I have family members - including one of my offspring - who are exploration geologists. We're talking high risk venture capital here. The geologist does a survey of some pretty remote country, e.g. in the Gulf country within a 200 km radius of Mt Isa and makes a recommendation: "Dig here and, behold, thou shalt find copper! Yea, and zinc in abundance!" and the mining company transports millions of $$$ worth of equipment to a very remote location where there is no electrical power, no sewerage ... nay and no Woolworths either! So they also have to transport air-conditioned "dongas" for the crew, yea and kitchens too, and cooks and a demountable mess that their employees may eat - and eat well! And all of this high risk investment on the basis of a geologist's recommendation "Dig here!"
It's high risk ... but high returns if the geologist is on top of her game. And especially if there be copper where the geologist predicted that there would be copper: "Dig here, and thou shalt find copper!" - and they dug ... and behold, the bowels of the earth did bring forth copper in abundance. And the directors of the company rejoiced exceedingly, for copper is a valuable ore, and pleasing it is in the eyes of the mining companies for it maketh those that find it obscenely rich.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 21:19:56 GMT 10
Its not 1930 ya f***in fossil This from the bloke who reckons that copper wire is a perfectly acceptable medium to transmit hi-speed data. |
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Post by garfield on Apr 17, 2013 21:29:04 GMT 10
Its not 1930 ya f***in fossil This from the bloke who reckons that copper wire is a perfectly acceptable medium to transmit hi-speed data. Where did I say that?, you talking out of your poofter ravaged arse again? I got great broadband where I am, I don't give a fuck what anyone else has got, neither do the voters apparently ;D |
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Post by pim on Apr 17, 2013 21:32:20 GMT 10
Garfield doesn't believe in God - actually he's a bit of a leftie on the God question! It's a worry, that one! - but he sure believes in copper!!
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Post by garfield on Apr 18, 2013 23:11:59 GMT 10
Still fascinated that the only people worried about Liberal party policy are fuckwitted Labor voters that would never vote Liberal in a million years ... fuckin funny stuff ;D
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Post by Salem on Apr 18, 2013 23:42:43 GMT 10
Oh, wow. Obvious satire is used as a topic? How desperate can you get, Geopol and Sonex? No one is advocating for the murder of anyone. And you know damn well if the political persuasion of the author was Labor, neither of you would have ever mentioned it. I knew the left on here would get very, very desperate in the lead up into the election, but....wow!! How sad for you both.  Pim, Being an Atheist = lefty? Being a Theist = righty? How very naive of you to be so simplistic. Religion is not a left/right divide. Plenty of Labor pollies and supporters are staunch Christians, just as plenty of Liberal pollies and supporters are Atheist or Agnostic. That you think one rather than the other is a 'lefty' or 'righty' domain shows how simplistic and tunnel vision-like your political outlook is. |
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Post by pim on Apr 19, 2013 7:23:44 GMT 10
Pim, Being an Atheist = lefty? Being a Theist = righty? How very naive of you to be so simplistic. Religion is not a left/right divide. Plenty of Labor pollies and supporters are staunch Christians, just as plenty of Liberal pollies and supporters are Atheist or Agnostic. That you think one rather than the other is a 'lefty' or 'righty' domain shows how simplistic and tunnel vision-like your political outlook is. What o earth are you talking about you dimwitted drongo! Obviously you have no sense of irony. Either you're so thck you take everything literally in which case there's no point wasting one's time explaining irony to you, or this is a disingenuous pose that you strike so you can grandstand on the board and take up bandwidth - in which case you're less than honest and I can't be bothered playing your silly manipulative little game. I suspect the former, rather than the latter ... |
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Post by sonex on Apr 19, 2013 9:40:10 GMT 10
Oh, wow. Obvious satire is used as a topic? How desperate can you get, Geopol and Sonex? No one is advocating for the murder of anyone. And you know damn well if the political persuasion of the author was Labor, neither of you would have ever mentioned it. I knew the left on here would get very, very desperate in the lead up into the election, but....wow!! How sad for you both. The point is Salem, that the man who wrote this article is part of the Liberal Think Tank, and the article is stupid, ignorant and offensive. Liberal or Labor we simply don't want stupid people to have any input into politics whatsoever. |
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Post by geopol on Apr 19, 2013 9:45:58 GMT 10
Quite so Sonex! IO believe he was indulging in a very obvious case of wishful thinking and extreme nastiness....."Satirical" is nothing but a scanty fig leaf....
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Post by Salem on Apr 19, 2013 9:50:48 GMT 10
Pim, Being an Atheist = lefty? Being a Theist = righty? How very naive of you to be so simplistic. Religion is not a left/right divide. Plenty of Labor pollies and supporters are staunch Christians, just as plenty of Liberal pollies and supporters are Atheist or Agnostic. That you think one rather than the other is a 'lefty' or 'righty' domain shows how simplistic and tunnel vision-like your political outlook is. What o earth are you talking about you dimwitted drongo! Obviously you have no sense of irony. Either you're so thck you take everything literally in which case there's no point wasting one's time explaining irony to you, or this is a disingenuous pose that you strike so you can grandstand on the board and take up bandwidth - in which case you're less than honest and I can't be bothered playing your silly manipulative little game. I suspect the former, rather than the latter ... What the? You are the one who claimed a person is Who is the one grandstanding? You make out like being an Atheist is a 'leftie' thing. It is not. Stop playing games yourself and grow up. |
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Post by Salem on Apr 19, 2013 9:54:17 GMT 10
Oh, wow. Obvious satire is used as a topic? How desperate can you get, Geopol and Sonex? No one is advocating for the murder of anyone. And you know damn well if the political persuasion of the author was Labor, neither of you would have ever mentioned it. I knew the left on here would get very, very desperate in the lead up into the election, but....wow!! How sad for you both. The point is Salem, that the man who wrote this article is part of the Liberal Think Tank, and the article is stupid, ignorant and offensive. Liberal or Labor we simply don't want stupid people to have any input into politics whatsoever. No, the point is you and Geopol drew attention to it, BECAUSE the author was Liberal. If the author was Graham Richardson or Paul Keating you never, as a Labor supporter yourself, would have posted it. And you very well know it. |
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