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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 11:32:57 GMT 10
12 dead now 3 dead now and one of them an 8 year old Those two posts are rather contradictory.
Did nine dead come back to life again?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 11:34:48 GMT 10
It's attention seeking "look at me" crap that we could well do without.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 11:46:14 GMT 10
There is no rhyme or reason with people who are out cause as much misery and pain as possible,..and certainly bombing poor people as war will inflict would evoke retliation, then it maybe a RW nutter(s) angry over gun control, we will soon see.
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Post by jody on Apr 16, 2013 16:57:05 GMT 10
This is from someone I know in America.
Raided an apartment in Revere, a suburb of Boston. Have a 20 something Saudi national male on a student visa in custody. Guarding a person of interest in Brigham and Women's hospital room with SWAT team.
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Post by garfield on Apr 16, 2013 17:16:06 GMT 10
.and certainly bombing poor people as war will inflict would evoke retliation, This has always been a fascinating yet idiotic lefty argument ie. when osama and his merry band of mental defectives known as the taliban levelled the world trade centres bombing the fuck out of them was a bad option as it will just evoke retaliation. Obviously what the left would have ideally liked to have seen was arrest warrants and search warrants served on Afghanistan closely followed by an army of lefty honey faced UN lawyers lining up en masse to defend osama and the taliban from prosecution for the next four decades, just as they have done now in a Thatcherless England when it comes to prosecuting their own hard to get rid of imported terrorist arseholes. Could you imagine how much time Maggie would have wasted on that problem?, I'll give you a clue, it would be between three and five minutes and by the end of the day hundreds of UK tube bomber wannabes would be being tortured by the Egyptian secret service ... as they should be. But I digress, waging war on people doesn't invite retaliation, in fact it usually causes them to give up and get with the program, Germany and Japan anyone? barring a few die hards of course. But if you have a leftist white flag waving mindset then one bombing killing two or three people will have you pleading to surrender to muslim anarchy at the earliest opportunity such is their head long rush to release themselves from the thing they hate the most ... Western capatilism. Fuckwit lefties hey ... who'd be one ;D
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Post by jody on Apr 16, 2013 18:15:33 GMT 10
KTJ It should have said 13 dead now one being an 8 years old. Though I think the tally is at 14 with many still critical.
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Post by slartibartfast on Apr 17, 2013 0:07:48 GMT 10
Terrorism, whether foreign or home-grown is not a left/right issue. Lets hope they find the perpetrators swiftly and let justice prevail.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 7:24:21 GMT 10
Oh really? Richo obviously believes it's a left/right issue ... or should I say a right issue.
A lot of the speculation that I have read seems to suggest that this was the work of homegrown right-wing nut jobs
Of course this is the only speculation Richo is interested in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 7:43:09 GMT 10
Islamist would normally target something more political.....while not beyond them, I have the sense (and I am only speculatin' ) it is either a malevolent individual or a home grown variety of RW nut jobs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 8:24:54 GMT 10
Whoever it is should face the death penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 9:20:29 GMT 10
Ah, yes....the old syndrome of righties getting their rocks off on killing.
Look at Altair as an example....he salivates over the prospect of judicial killings. Well, unless those judicial killings are in China, or Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or Pakistan, then he is suddenly against judicial killings.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 10:42:23 GMT 10
From the Los Angeles Times....Boston Marathon bombing proves evil never leaves us in peaceBy DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM - Tuesday, 16 April 2013THE terrorist bombing at the Boston Marathon is yet another cause for despair. It places the hometown of Paul Revere, Sam Adams and the Sons of Liberty in company with Mumbai, Karachi and Baghdad, as well as Oklahoma City.
Hour after hour Monday, the same heart-wrenching images cycled through the nonstop television coverage: moms, dads, kids, amateur athletes shooting for a personal best, all suddenly engulfed in horror. As I write, the death toll is set at three; the number of reported injuries has climbed to 134. Those numbers will probably be revised upward.
One moment, happy people celebrating Boston’s Patriots' Day holiday stood cheering for friends and family at the marathon finish line; the next they were on the ground, bleeding, stunned, grievously wounded, pulverized by shrapnel, many legs blown off by the bomb blast. They were random victims of some person or group of people who did not have an ounce of empathy for them.
The central question now is, who is that person or group? Is this the action of a foreign terrorist organization with a gripe against the United States or, like Nidal Malik Hasan, a homegrown killer in sympathy with a distant cause? Is it someone like Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, a coldblooded militant sprung from the darkest cesspool of American paranoia? Or is the perpetrator in the mold of Ted Kaczynski, a sociopathic loner with a purpose that makes sense only in his own sick mind?
Whoever it is, we do know this: If anything in this world qualifies as evil, this is it.
On the afternoon of the bombing, I sat at my desk among my colleagues on the Los Angeles Times national staff. They sprang into action as soon as the first bombing report came in. Reporters were dispatched to Boston. Everyone grabbed a piece of the story to provide a comprehensive version of events.
The editor next to me was on the telephone interviewing an L.A. woman who had been running the marathon when the bomb went off. Then he called a correspondent to suggest a new angle on the story. He used the phrase, “Whenever things like this happen…” and, overhearing those words, I was struck by how utterly normal this sort of incident has become.
George W. Bush was right when he called the people who commit these acts “evildoers.” We are all flawed and stand lower than the angels, but only a few among us eagerly descend to evil like that done in Boston on Monday afternoon.
The evildoers are always out there, plotting to blow a hole in our everyday lives. Luckily, we have resilience, we have generous spirits and we have a legion of good guys on our side to care for the wounded and track down the killers. What we do not have is any realistic hope that the evil ones among us will leave us in peace for long.www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-boston-marathon-bombing-20130415,0,1088580.story
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 13:28:42 GMT 10
Exploding your emotional bandwidthBy Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist | 5:07PM - April 16th, 2013WE ARE not built for this. We are not designed, at our core, to be able to absorb, at a glance and a click, a tweet and a ruthless video feed, all the ills and horrors of the world, all at once, all manner of chaos and destruction in a nonstop bloody flood over which we are powerless to influence and impotent to stop.
The Boston bombings have forced us, once again, to ask: Are we in an age of miracles or misery? Unhindered magic or cruel dystopia? Is it both? How can it possibly be both? This tech-enabled onslaught of violence and pain the likes of which our ancestors, even as recently as 50 years ago, never had to deal with and could not possibly imagine? It is not within our emotional capacity. Not without serious scarring, anyway.
As the images of blood and mayhem flooded the newswires on Monday, as the tragedy unfolded across a billion tiny screens in real time, as my Twitter feed lit up in seconds, instantly jammed with bizarre and disquieting images, frantic claims, uninformed hysteria and little Vine video clips of that one old man crumpling to the ground in a heap, we can only blink and shake, hold our collective head in our hands: “What the hell is this? What have we become?” And perhaps most importantly: “How can we possibly process it all? What can we do?”
The answer is almost always the same, but increasingly lost in the modern bedlam of technology: In times of violent, faraway tragedy, you do the only thing possible: You gather in, hold tight, and take care of those close to you. As feeble as it sounds, as meek as you feel, this is the only way. This is also the best way. To help. To be a part. To avoid shutting down, hardening, adding more suspicion and mistrust to the world.We are not so separate, or different. We just like to think we are.It took awhile, but I finally heard this advice, just a few precious times, amid the insanity of news: Go be with your family. Connect more intimately with those around you. Recognize the ancient teaching that is so easy to forget in the insta-everything madness: The karma of the world, be it in Boston or Africa, Syria or sexually abused, suicidal teen girls, is not yours to take on. Attempt to shoulder the horrors and brutalities of the world, and watch yourself die.
Besides, despite the horrific images, there was plenty to be heartened by. Did you notice? While the bombings were likely accomplished by a single person or small number of people, the wild outpouring of love and support, the hundreds if not thousands of first responders, police, fireman, medical personnel, various citizens who rushed to help, who donated blood, not to mention the millions who poured out love and support via messages and blogs, kind words and non-partisan stories? That was sort of staggering. That was sort of a wonder. As debilitating and depressing as the bombings were, the reaction was just the opposite, and far larger.
This is the most essential reminder of all, is it not? A handful of violent sociopaths will never match, much less defeat, the support and care of tens of millions. Those who wish harm and damage upon humanity will never outnumber those who enable, empower and heal. The odds are in our favor. They always are. This is why we are still alive. Maybe the only reason.
It’s easy to pluck out the imbeciles and opportunists, the conspiracy nuts, ones who light up the chat rooms with anti-Islamic hate, who instantly politicize the bombings, who cannot wait to find an enemy or leverage the tragedy to hammer some petty political point. Is the Boston bomber some local, small-time sociopath who used the Internet to make explosives? Was it a terrorist splinter group? Was it a Saudi? Some Tea Party anti-abortionist? A pro-NRA redneck? Militant vegan? Who can we blame?
What an odd, charged, fascinating moment, this space of not knowing. It forces us to isolate the emotional toll into pure feeling, pure shared humanity, divorced of social or geopolitical wedge. Unable to aim our accusations at something, to find scapegoat or excuse, all our normal engines of intolerance and blame are momentarily rendered useless.
Make no mistake, we will almost certainly find out who did it. Then the frantic political blogs and talking heads will finally get to embark upon some heated, semi-intellectual conversation about insanity, or domestic terrorism, or racism, or some new form of the same old demons we haven’t considered yet.
Will it help? Will we learn anything new? Maybe. Doubtful. Maybe we’ll just re-learn the old chestnut that America must have its demons. We must have our enemies. If we can’t find any, we invent them. It’s what we do.
Meantime, we just mourn and grieve and collect ourselves. We just gather in. It won’t last long, but perhaps this is the most important moment of all. Perhaps this is where we find our soul.• • Mark Morford on Twitter and Facebook.blog.sfgate.com/morford/2013/04/16/exploding-your-emotional-bandwidth
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:48:52 GMT 10
Mark Morford ..the moral conscience of the media..!!
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Post by jody on Apr 18, 2013 8:22:53 GMT 10
omg...just heard that those vile westboro wankers are picketing in Boston because they believe the bombings were brought on by same sex marriage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 11:08:17 GMT 10
Considering the massive security measures in place yet the terrorist/s still managed to pull it off, this is a matter of concern. From another forum ... Boston Terror Attacks, Bomb Squad, Terror Drill, Bomb Sniffing Dogs, Law Enforcement Spotters, National Guard…By Washington's Blog Global Research, April 16, 2013 www.globalresearch.ca/boston-terr....l-guard/5331729Terror Bombing Shows that Our Anti-Terrorism Policies Are Ineffective We documented earlier today that the American government has squandered huge sums of homeland security and defense spending on useless tasks that increase – rather than prevent -terrorism. Indeed, the head cross-country track coach at the University of Mobile – Alastair Stevenson – told Alabama’s Press-Register: “At the starting line this morning, they had bomb sniffing dogs and the bomb squad out there,” he said. “They kept announcing to runners not to be alarmed, that they were running a training exercise.” He added, “I’ve run a lot of races like this one, but I never saw bomb dogs at the starting line of any running event. Stevenson provided additional details in an interview by local 15 tv news: University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, who was near the finish line of the Boston Marathon when a series of explosions went off, said he thought it was odd there were bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines. “They kept making announcements to the participants do not worry, it’s just a training exercise,” Coach Ali Stevenson told Local 15. Stevenson said he saw law enforcement spotters on the roofs at the start of the race. He’s been in plenty of marathons in Chicago, D.C., Chicago, London and other major metropolitan areas but has never seen that level of security before. All of the marathon runners – including Stevenson – started the race hours before the bombs exploded. Time Magazine reported yesterday: Over the years, the Boston Marathon has undergone numerous security overhauls. TIME writer Katy Steinmetz reports: Under heightened security in 2002, 600 police officers joined the runners. There were also an unprecedented 1,500 state and local police patrolling the route and another 1,500 security guards. There were 415 National Guard troops on hand. Helicopters, bomb-sniffing dogs, hazmat teams and radiation detectors were added. Boston Globe compared to security used for the Olympics and Super Bowl. According to the Mass. National Guard website, more than 400 troops were involved in 2013, too. From the release: Pfc. Matthew S. Knowlton, a military policeman with the 747 Military Police Company, was one Soldier assigned to help out at the starting line. Describing the scene Knowlton said, “This is a very positive setting, I’m just happy to be here. There are a lot of people here but it’s a great crowd.” Indeed, the Massachusetts National Guard release notes: Sgt. Ezequiel Valencia Sgt. Ezequiel Valencia, a human resources sergeant, with the 747 Military Police Company, Massachusetts Army National Guard, looks on as runners begin the 117th Boston Marathon April 15, 2013 in Hopkinton, Mass. More than 400 Guardsman were on hand to help local law enforcement keep the route clear for an estimated 27,000 runners. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. 1st Class James C. Lally, Massachusetts National Guard Public Affairs) In addition, Mother Jones reports: At 5:20 a.m. on Monday, four hours before the Boston Marathon’s elite runners took off, a group of 15 active-duty soldiers from the Massachusetts National Guard gathered at the starting line in Hopkinson. Each soldier was in full combat uniform and carried a “ruck,” a military backpack weighing about 40 pounds. The rucks were filled with Camelbacks of water, extra uniforms, Gatorade, changes of socks—and first-aid and trauma kits. It was all just supposed to be symbolic. “Forced marches” or “humps” are a regular part of military training, brisk walking over tough terrain while carrying gear that could help a soldier survive if stranded alone. These soldiers, participating in “Tough Ruck 2013,” were doing the 26 miles of the Boston Marathon to honor comrades killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, or lost to suicide and PTSD-related accidents after coming home. It took about eight hours for all of the soldiers to cross the finish line, some cruising nearly at a 13-minute mile, others coming in at a little slower pace. They were gathered near the medical tent behind the finish line, waiting for the elite runners to come in. That was the contingency plan in case anything went wrong—meet by the medical tent. *** A Tough Ruck soldier marching the marathon course Military Friends Foundation When the explosion went off, Fiola and his group immediately went into tactical mode. “I did a count and told the younger soldiers to stay put,” Fiola says. “Myself and two other soldiers, my top two guys in my normal unit, crossed the street about 100 yards to the metal scaffoldings holding up the row of flags. We just absolutely annihilated the fence and pulled it back so we could see the victims underneath. The doctors and nurses from the medical tent were on the scene in under a minute. We were pulling burning debris off of people so that the medical personnel could get to them and begin triage.” “There was a guy behind me covered in his own blood, and I started to smell some smoke. I turn around to look and he’s actually on fire.” Once the victims were transported away for further medical care, Fiola and the others stood guard around the blast area. “We switched to keeping the scene safe, quarantining the area and preventing people from entering. There was a guy behind me covered, just covered, in his own blood, and I started to smell some smoke. *** The ruckers at 5 a.m., before setting off on the course Military Friends Foundation As one of our readers notes: All of America’s security forces were there. Spotters. Bomb sniffing dogs. The whole array. They even ran a drill beforehand. Comparisons to 9/11 are inevitable. Copyright © 2013 Global Research
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Post by garfield on Apr 18, 2013 12:33:20 GMT 10
omg...just heard that those vile westboro wankers are picketing in Boston because they believe the bombings were brought on by same sex marriage. Somebody should blow them up d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/thumb.gif [/img]
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Post by jody on Apr 18, 2013 12:52:32 GMT 10
they should be all tossed in jail where they belong
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 12:55:42 GMT 10
Yep....you've got to watch out for those Baptists.
They're strange buggers....Altair is one of them.
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Post by jody on Apr 18, 2013 12:58:16 GMT 10
more goes at Skippy...even though he doesn't post here anymore?
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Post by garfield on Apr 18, 2013 12:59:32 GMT 10
Were is me old religious nutjob mate skip these days?
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Post by jody on Apr 18, 2013 13:05:21 GMT 10
I see him on facebook....he is very well.
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Post by garfield on Apr 18, 2013 13:19:47 GMT 10
Say hi from me ;D
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Post by jody on Apr 18, 2013 13:52:07 GMT 10
glad to say that no names are ever mentioned from this place
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Post by Salem on Apr 18, 2013 16:28:44 GMT 10
How come Skippy isn't posting anymore, Jody? Is he just on a break or given this place up?
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