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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 15:29:55 GMT 10
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Post by caskur on Feb 12, 2013 19:11:52 GMT 10
It does make one wonder what he did. He is not that old. Most Popes die in office. Not resign before death. It doesn't even seem like he was Pope for very long after John Paul II. Far out... do you ever cease making dumb comments? The man is sharp as a tack and his body is past rotting stage... and no doubt exists on pain killers. What is sickening about all this is innuendo. I think you should go visit some 85-86 yr old in old peoples homes and then see if you make further dumb comments like that. This current Pope, did all John Paul the seconds work, when he was incapacitated... and he was incapacitated for about 3 yrs.
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Post by caskur on Feb 12, 2013 19:14:39 GMT 10
KTJ is beside himself in cartoon postal glee. I haven't seen KTJ this happy EVER. All we need now is an earthquake at the Vatican and KTJ life will be complete!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 20:00:24 GMT 10
FATHER BOB 4 POPE !!!!
You know it makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 20:02:55 GMT 10
AND IF WE CAN'T GET FB, GIVE US A MICK !!!!
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Post by caskur on Feb 12, 2013 21:32:54 GMT 10
For 25 years Ratzinger was head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith which was once the Inquisition before the name was changed. In those 25 years Ratzinger cover up child molesting priests and moved them around to fresh children and never once reported any of them to the police. That is concealing crimes and aiding and abetting criminals for 25 years. He should be in prison. it's up to the parents of the children who were victims to go to the police and report a crime... it's not up to people with heresay evidence to do it.....dohhh.
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Post by matt on Feb 12, 2013 21:38:51 GMT 10
It does make one wonder what he did. He is not that old. Most Popes die in office. Not resign before death. It doesn't even seem like he was Pope for very long after John Paul II. Vatican Bank corruption and probably fiddling with little boys.
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Post by Salem on Feb 12, 2013 21:49:54 GMT 10
Er, Caskur, you're the only one here making dumb comments. What I said is all factual. Most Popes do die in office. Why do you think there is so much fuss about him parting with a centuries old tradition in the media? Why do you think the media is making such a fuss over this being a "shock resignation"? Are you on drugs? Or simply not reading posts? Because you seem very off-topic and nothing you have said goes to anything I said or that this thread is about.
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Post by Salem on Feb 12, 2013 21:53:24 GMT 10
It's up to the parents of the children who were victims to go to the police and report a crime... it's not up to people with heresay evidence to do it.....dohhh. Jesus Christ thats a flipping dumb comment if *ever* there was one. Its up to BOTH. This may come as news to you Caskur, but Priests, like Teachers, have a thing called DUTY OF CARE. Priests who know of abuse should report it to police, as should parents. smh
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Post by Salem on Feb 12, 2013 21:57:55 GMT 10
Exactly Buzzock.
Not to mention, like my father why was interfered with by a Priest at a Catholic Orphanage, he had no parents to report it to the police, you dumb ignorant bitch Caskur with your ugly freddy kreuger pic.
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Post by jody on Feb 12, 2013 22:12:29 GMT 10
Buzz use the censored version that is available for the f word please
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Post by jody on Feb 12, 2013 22:13:53 GMT 10
You too salem.
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Post by jody on Feb 12, 2013 22:17:00 GMT 10
I allow the use of that word but in my censored style.....use it or posts will be deleted.
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Post by caskur on Feb 12, 2013 22:33:48 GMT 10
it's up to the parents of the children who were victims to go to the police and report a crime... it's not up to people with heresay evidence to do it.....dohhh. The covering up of a crime and aiding and abetting a criminal is a crime in itself. The Catholic Church has known about it and covering it up for centuries and Ratzinger did it for 25 years - he is a criminal. my comment stands... just because accusations are made, does not mean they are legal. Again, it's up to the parents of victims to report a crime... and if the person grows into an adult and hasn't told anyone, it is up to themselves to go to the police. do you know the proper procedures or as usual, you're just mouthing off. Every single child abuse case were "covered up".... geeuz you're dumber than a box of rocks.
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Post by caskur on Feb 12, 2013 22:39:00 GMT 10
Er, Caskur, you're the only one here making dumb comments. What I said is all factual. Most Popes do die in office. Why do you think there is so much fuss about him parting with a centuries old tradition in the media? Why do you think the media is making such a fuss over this being a "shock resignation"? Are you on drugs? Or simply not reading posts? Because you seem very off-topic and nothing you have said goes to anything I said or that this thread is about. He said he cannot do his job justice. He said he has no strength left... and it is the reason he has given and it's certainly feasible. It's not the first time it has been done. So he isn't really breaking a tradition. I think the media are making a fuss because their is no big old natural disaster to bodybag count and they have to do something to sell their dumb stories... why? Why do you think the media are going to town on this story?
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Post by caskur on Feb 12, 2013 22:41:38 GMT 10
If there are allegations of misconduct, the first thing to happen is the police must be notified and the suspected offended suspended pending investigations. Not in the Catholic Church. There they cover up the crimes and move the culprit to fresh areas where he can continue. You CANNOT go to he police with heresay, dumbo... you can only tell a victim or alleged perpetrator to go to the police and make a statement.
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Post by caskur on Feb 12, 2013 22:45:28 GMT 10
Right now in Australia, men have killed themselves after sex abuse from priests. The Pope knew all about it and said and did nothing for 25 years. F him. and right now men and women have killed themselves from sex abuse by non-Catholic clergy... what do you want any of us to do about it?
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Post by matt on Feb 12, 2013 23:53:58 GMT 10
If there are allegations of misconduct, the first thing to happen is the police must be notified and the suspected offended suspended pending investigations. Not in the Catholic Church. There they cover up the crimes and move the culprit to fresh areas where he can continue. Ahh, Vatican City isn't part of Italy, so who would investigate the corruption within?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 14:06:15 GMT 10
From the Los Angeles Times....Pope Benedict's departure is a surprise; his successor won't beBy DAVID HORSEY | 5:00AM - Thursday, February 14, 2013POPE BENEDICT XVI knows how to keep a secret. In a world of strategic leaks, gabby underlings, intrusive paparazzi and cyber-hackers, the pope was able to pull off a surprise when he announced his plan to step down as head of the Roman Catholic Church at the end of the month.
Since no other pope had done such a thing in nearly 600 years, most people assumed Benedict would be the top man at the Vatican until the day he died, like all but eight of his predecessors. But even at the beginning of his papacy in 2005, Benedict dropped hints that it would be justified for a pontiff to bow out early if his health seriously inhibited his ability to do the job. Benedict had watched Pope John Paul II become frail in his final years and saw how the lack of strong leadership impeded the work of the church. With his own health faltering, Benedict apparently decided he wanted to set a different example.
Could this be a new precedent? Now that medical science can keep people alive, even as their bodies and minds are seriously diminished, lifetime sinecures are more problematic than in the past, when natural death could not be forestalled for years. By this act, Benedict is indicating that the old system does not work anymore and that the office is more important than the man who holds the office. For some Catholics, that is a troubling idea. They do not want to think that a pope is like a president or a prime minister, a mere mortal to be turned out of power and routinely replaced. For them, the pope is God’s anointed, the shepherd of a flock 1.2 billion strong who cannot simply give notice and head off to play golf in Palm Springs with other retirees.
But the deed is done and now attention turns to the selection of Benedict’s successor. As in the past, progressive Catholics will be praying for a new direction, a choice that indicates a departure from the unbending theological conservatism that has held sway at the highest reaches of the church for decades. It is hard to imagine such a shift will come, however, since the Cardinals who will be choosing the new pope are appointees of Benedict and John Paul, the very men who sought to clamp down on the liberalization that swept though the church in the 1960s and ‘70s.
Even if the new pope looks different from the endless line of old European men — an African or Latin American, for instance — he will likely be a man who subscribes to traditional views. Do not expect priests to be allowed to marry or women to become priests anytime soon. Benedict may be going, but his conservatism has been institutionalized.www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-pope-benedicts-departure-20130213,0,3967546.story
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 8:09:08 GMT 10
From the Los Angeles Times....Retired, Pope Benedict will still be hanging around the houseBy DAVID HORSEY | 12:02AM - Thursday, February 28, 2013WHEN Pope Celestine V quit his job in 1294, his successor locked him in prison and kept him there until he died. Pope Benedict XVI will not suffer the same sad fate. When he resigns Thursday, not only will he not be jailed, exiled or even sent to a retirement home. He will get to stay in the Vatican.
This worries some Catholics who think having two popes in the house will make things a little crowded. Some even fear there is a nefarious scheme at work that will allow Benedict to exert undue influence on his successor. Given the history of intrigue in the Roman Catholic Church, it is not surprising that there might be worries about this unprecedented situation. But really, if Benedict wanted to hang on to power, he had a much easier way to do that: Keep his job. He is keeping his name, the right to be called “his holiness” and his white wardrobe (though not his snazzy red shoes), but power will swiftly pass to the new guy.
Benedict will be just another retiree in Rome with time on his hands. Will he be walking the marble halls rounding up a few cardinals for a round of cribbage? Will he be down in the park tossing a bocce ball with the white-haired pensioners? Is there a senior center nearby where he might want to hang out and take up ceramics? Or might he spend his days on a golf course the way retired presidents used to do before Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton messed things up by being so overly ambitious in their post-White House years?
Benedict (or Benny, as the waitress would call him if there were a Rome Denny’s with an early bird special) says he will spend his time praying. That seems like the proper thing for an ex-pope to do. Still, we should not blame him if, sooner or later, he’s tempted to switch on the TV, push back the lounge chair and watch some football until he nods off like any other normal senior citizen. After all, his work is done.
He has shown that popes do not need to keep at it until their job kills them off. They may be vicars of Christ, but popes are not supermen. Benedict is wise enough to know his church can live with that truth and that it will probably be better for it.www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-retired-pope-20130228,0,7042271.story
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Post by caskur on Mar 11, 2013 18:14:49 GMT 10
how do you know the Dalai Lama is free from sex crimes?
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