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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 3:14:53 GMT 10
All opinion polls except the popularity poll were wrong.....upside is if the economy goes guts up the LNP cannot blame Labor, and to be sure the LNP will have to deal with franking credits...its not a gift that can keep on giving.
Jason Clare would be good as treasurer....its also time for a female leader....include Penny Wong in the list.
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Post by Salem on May 19, 2019 16:17:42 GMT 10
No. Anyone but Albo would be a disaster. Jason Clare has less presence than Shorten did. He has less presence than a lamp post. I have read people saying Jim Chalmers as he is young, charismatic etc. But I really think they should have gone with Albo IN THE FIRST PLACE, and they really need to rectify this. Labor cannot make the same mistake twice. They have to right their wrongs and select him, now, at last. I think Albo is untainted most of the RGR years. Even though he supported Rudd, he was and is widely respected in both camps and has a good name. Is a unifier. I think Plibersek, Bowen and Chalmers et al need to wait their turn.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 6:18:01 GMT 10
As stated earlier the franking credit gift is not a gift that can keep on giving....it will be eroded by the LNP rather than axed....count on an increase in people taking their super out and plonk it into shares which will only increase the pressure on the treasury that will take money from essential services.
In thinking it can be maintained the decision by mum and dad investors will cost those mum's and dads in health services and their grand kids education.....increasing poverty.
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Post by Aurora on May 20, 2019 8:05:08 GMT 10
Az over the road has another suggestion .... Malcolm Turnbull, lol.
After all the Turnbulls need a chance to make up some of that $850k they lost on Labor losing.
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Post by pim on May 20, 2019 8:23:38 GMT 10
Interesting, innit. And revealing! An old style "noblesse oblige" Menzies Liberal is reviled as closet Labor by the hard right faction of the current Liberal Party.
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Post by caskur on May 20, 2019 8:34:38 GMT 10
Interesting, innit. And revealing! An old style "noblesse oblige" Menzies Liberal is reviled as closet Labor by the hard right faction of the current Liberal Party. I saw a documentary years ago saying Menzies was only voted in because he stole Labor's policies. Libs are good at adopting other parties policies. Howard adopted Hanson's policies. Libs need more good looking people. They all look like intergalactic travelers of the alien kind. They all ejected from a spaceship as hit every branch of a gum tree as they landed face first to earth.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 9:02:53 GMT 10
There are many factors why Labor lost...its policies on taxing rich people, Bob Brown going to Qld pissing alien gum tree head smackers people off, not challenging the negativity enough, no trust in Bill in increasing taxes....so on so on....while ScoMo was able to win the election on no policies change, yet when one looks closer the LNP are making changes on pensions,(looking after retirees is their voter base) wages, business etc...all incrementally yet have nothing in place if the economy goes belly up.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 9:31:27 GMT 10
The problem is it wasn't explained well enough and Shorto didn't have the trust to bring people along with him, they saw how popular Rudd and was destroyed by his own party and Labor paid the price, look at Joyce all he had to say was "Labor, Labor, Labor..' and win .....and as stated earlier the franking credit scheme will be eroded over time.
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Post by Yassir Rebob on May 20, 2019 9:43:54 GMT 10
I fully agree, the next three years are going to be ugly, probably a recession for us. Labor would have accelerated the recession and deepened it with their policies presented at this election. BULL SHIT the ALP have always been better economic managers than the COALalition and always will be. it was the COALalition that gave us the double digit trifecter in the 70's recession it was the COALalition that through the structural deficit that they have deliberately built into our economy, for self-serving purposes, and will ensure that when the full effects of the current economic downturn become apparent, make it worse than it should be. It was a Labor Government that saved us from the worst recession since the 1930's Great Depression, unlike the rest of the OECD, by implementing sensible Keynesian policies. Meanwhile, recession is coming, and the short term ponzi style gaming, that the COALalition have been playing is going hit come back and hit us big time.
Normally I sorta despise wishing bad upon others, but perhaps some of the useful idiots that have been suckered by the COALition into over extending themselves on a false promise, need to lose the lot, if only to understand how fake Schlomo and his merry crew of freaks really are
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Post by Yassir Rebob on May 20, 2019 9:47:16 GMT 10
As stated earlier the franking credit gift is not a gift that can keep on giving....it will be eroded by the LNP rather than axed....count on an increase in people taking their super out and plonk it into shares which will only increase the pressure on the treasury that will take money from essential services. In thinking it can be maintained the decision by mum and dad investors will cost those mum's and dads in health services and their grand kids education.....increasing poverty. Yep, the poor bastards have been suckered into buying the false dream from the Liberals ponzi scheme, and it will be their children and grand children will end up losing
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Post by Aurora on May 20, 2019 10:10:03 GMT 10
And as they rake over the coals (of discontent) ....
Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves ....
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Post by pim on May 20, 2019 10:40:55 GMT 10
Aurora's right and she's entitled to the schadenfreude. Don't worry Aurora, these turkeys don't speak for the Labor Party. It's in better shape than you think. We'll be back.
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Post by Yassir Rebob on May 20, 2019 11:56:35 GMT 10
* points to scoreboard * What scoreboard, Twit ? 25- 30 odd years of growth ?, nope, that was due to Labor Avoiding the GFC Great Recession ? Labor again Giving us Double Digit Inflation, Double Digit Interest rates, and Double Digit unemployment, all at the same time? Well you Libs will forever have to wear that spectacular feat of economic incompetence. And when the reality hits..... What Austerity measures will Schlomo implement ? What Services will Schlomo, that great "christiain" cut, just when they are needed the most, and all to protect the ponzi of the Structural Deficit that's feeding their precious Franking Credit, and Negative Gearing rort ?
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Post by Yassir Rebob on May 20, 2019 12:03:15 GMT 10
Hubris is coming(see above)
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Post by Aurora on May 20, 2019 12:35:00 GMT 10
Oh I really do hope they choose him as their new leader, lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 15:45:45 GMT 10
Bowen is tainted with the f/c and tax business....it will bite him on the bum next election as media RW hounds will bark that up again....Albo and Tanya me thinks.
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Post by caskur on May 20, 2019 18:00:42 GMT 10
In McMahon, held by shadow treasurer Chris Bowen, there was a 5 per cent swing against the ALP. CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN I don't like this guy, he doesn't move his lips when he is talking. I find that shoofty. Pick someone else.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 18:29:50 GMT 10
And then there's the Nationals leadership debacle that will be created by Barnaby......Morrison if he is wise will hold a Royal Commission into the Murray/Darling water allocations which will sink Barnaby.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 9:28:31 GMT 10
The franking credits will come to task in time....but agree Bowen will be remembered for that....tax changes that need to be made should have been incremental.
What needs to be done now is Labor has to keep its face out of the media its nohing but a distraction for ScoMo taking pressure of him.
The lesson the should learn is to shut up and say nothing, announce who the new leader is when it happens they are not in government....fucking fools indeed being played for knuckleheads....with the LNP going don't look at what we are doing just look at Labor Labor Labor...crikey that's how the LNP won the election.
As it goes they lack sophistication not to withdraw from the limelight and let the government fall over by itself.
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Post by Yassir Rebob on May 21, 2019 16:33:03 GMT 10
So, when the next GFC style crash occurs, will the Fibs implement a fiscal stimulus, as Rudd did in 2008, and SAVED US FROM RECESSION, or will Schlomo do what the Libs advocated for at the time, and bail out the banks instead, which led to counties like the US and UK going into the deepest recession since the Great Depression ?
Silly question,I know, of course they'll follow the US and UK example, and do what they advocated for last time, and see us go into recession. It's in their DNA. The LIbs have never forgiven Labor from saving us from the GFC recession, they absolutely hate the idea of actually saving millions of working Australians and their families from going under, as will happen in recession, and were envious that we didn't follow the US/UK example. Probably because, in a sick way, recessions provide the bottom feeders cleaning up in otherwise cheap stocks. These are the type of folk who are Lucky Phils new heores. But, how many crashes and recessions etc, have to happen before the penny drops for these half-wits that trickle down economics is a fraud ?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 3:12:15 GMT 10
Shorto wants Bowen as leader so Shorto can be the faceless nong behind him and that wont work for Labor.....Shorto should resign from parliament or he will embarrassingly lose his seat of Marybillnong next election....the people have had enough of the facearse business.
Bowen may have a big ambition like Shorto.... he doesn't have a big enough personality just like Shorto.
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Post by pim on May 25, 2019 13:42:12 GMT 10
He must spam
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 6:46:04 GMT 10
He must prefer fake news.
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Post by pim on May 27, 2019 8:10:18 GMT 10
Ponto given that Labor lost the elections and as a consequence they don't form the government so the spoils of victory go to the other mob - the flip side being that the buck stops with the other mob - why does Trickles continue to obsess about Labor and in particular Bill Shorten? Observe his posts. You wouldn't know that there's a Morrison government.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 8:40:28 GMT 10
Dare say those who rejoice in a ScoMo government will not be rejoicing for long..... The anti China rhetoric from the RW will bite Australia on the bum...and its sucko dudes right back at the RW drongo's.
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