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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 16:27:40 GMT 10
Damn, it's on at the same time as the Roman ships special on sbs...still, there is iView ...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 22:16:15 GMT 10
I saw it and it was horrific viewing.
Anyone else see it?
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Post by Salem on Dec 12, 2012 22:40:30 GMT 10
Rod Stinson was a friend of my father who was one of the group that got compensation from the church for Brother Nestor's abuse. Both of them (dad and Stinson) got a (tiny) payout but had to keep quiet about Nestor's abuse from then on. They were both orphans at St Vincents Westmead Boys Home when Nestor was there and he abused them. During the time dad was testifying (he was supoenaed down to NSW) dad said Nestor stuck his leg out in the isle to trip him. Amazingly my (now completely) almost blind father with 6% vision left saw it in time. Dad nor Stinson nor the others got justice because the judge said Nestor was too old. Yet others older than him were convicted and sentenced. Its a real travesty.
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Post by fat on Dec 12, 2012 23:17:35 GMT 10
Sorry - i was 100 miles from my TV at the time. Do they have a later web view or is that just the ABC who after its people?
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Post by matt on Dec 13, 2012 0:17:21 GMT 10
Any mention of Hillsong?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 8:39:00 GMT 10
Rod Stinson was a friend of my father who was one of the group that got compensation from the church for Brother Nestor's abuse. Both of them (dad and Stinson) got a (tiny) payout but had to keep quiet about Nestor's abuse from then on. They were both orphans at St Vincents Westmead Boys Home when Nestor was there and he abused them. During the time dad was testifying (he was supoenaed down to NSW) dad said Nestor stuck his leg out in the isle to trip him. Amazingly my (now completely) almost blind father with 6% vision left saw it in time. Dad nor Stinson nor the others got justice because the judge said Nestor was too old. Yet others older than him were convicted and sentenced. Its a real travesty. Hey Salem, Really sorry to hear what happened to your dad and Stinson. Gee that was horrific and seems as you correctly point out a real travesty. "Whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believed in me, it were better for him that millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:6 So sorry to hear that Salem. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 8:47:54 GMT 10
Hillsong sickos probably haven't been caught yet.
But they will....they cannot hide their more unsavoury activities indefinitely.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 8:53:54 GMT 10
Hillsong sickos probably haven't been caught yet.
But they will....they cannot hide their more unsavoury activities indefinitely. A cheap argument from silence from KTJ. |
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Post by sonex on Dec 13, 2012 8:56:04 GMT 10
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Post by fat on Dec 13, 2012 14:49:13 GMT 10
Doh!! - Compass is ABC. Thanks Sonex. (I feel so silly now)
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Post by fat on Dec 13, 2012 16:38:35 GMT 10
Everyone should read that transcript.
From beginning:
Christina Koutsoukos, Compass, 1992
Tonight's Compass deals with something that ought not to exist at all. It tells of acts of sexual abuse by priests, clergy, pastors and brothers in the churches of Australia.
To end:
Julia Gillard, Prime Minister
Too many children have suffered child abuse but have also seen other adults let them down. I believe in the circumstances that it's appropriate for there to be a national response through a Royal Commission. This I hope will help with healing. But I specifically hope that its recommendations will help us ensure that this never ever happens again.
Geraldine Doogue
Well the enormity of the task facing the Royal Commission is obvious. Hundreds of public submissions have already been received to help the government establish the terms of reference, with the view to hearings starting early in the New Year.
The big question is, what can it achieve and what are people's hopes for it?
Helen Last
My greatest hope for this Royal Commission is that it will bring those involved in it to have to face justice; that it will look at the needs of victims and their families; and that finally justice can not only be done but is being seen to be done.
Peter Horsfield
I think the institutions of religion seriously need renovation and reformation. They are given privileges that no other social institutions have and I think that needs to be changed. It needs to be changed in the law and it needs to be changed in practice.
Rod Stinson
I am not someone who wants to persecute the Church or to attack it. I am part of the Church. I want to see it cleansed and healed. And so that it is once again a safe place for those who want a path to God.
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Post by jody on Dec 13, 2012 22:04:55 GMT 10
I like this.....
I am not someone who wants to persecute the Church or to attack it. I am part of the Church. I want to see it cleansed and healed. And so that it is once again a safe place for those who want a path to God.
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Post by Lord Stockton on Jan 2, 2013 16:56:07 GMT 10
"My heart will go out to all those who cannot find peace at this time, especially those who have suffered at the hands of fellow Christians; Christian officials, priests'' and teachers, he said.
"I am deeply sorry this has happened. It is completely contrary to Christ's teachings.''
I know some may say me cynical, but I wonder if when asked for documents or the current where abouts of members of the clergy, he will freely give that information as evidence of his sorrow OR
will the church's legal teams acting on instructions find reason to delay & to deny ?
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Post by fat on Jan 3, 2013 8:52:14 GMT 10
With respect Mr Garfield - you have no idea at all about God.
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Post by johnw on Jan 19, 2016 10:28:27 GMT 10
Rod Stinson was a friend of my father who was one of the group that got compensation from the church for Brother Nestor's abuse. Both of them (dad and Stinson) got a (tiny) payout but had to keep quiet about Nestor's abuse from then on. They were both orphans at St Vincents Westmead Boys Home when Nestor was there and he abused them. During the time dad was testifying (he was supoenaed down to NSW) dad said Nestor stuck his leg out in the isle to trip him. Amazingly my (now completely) almost blind father with 6% vision left saw it in time. Dad nor Stinson nor the others got justice because the judge said Nestor was too old. Yet others older than him were convicted and sentenced. Its a real travesty. Hi Salem, You speak of Rod Stinson in the past-tense; are we to assume he has died? Johnw |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 18:31:48 GMT 10
Well this is a step back in time.....
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Post by geopol on Jan 25, 2016 15:43:49 GMT 10
No wonder Labor’s Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus QC MP decided to take Attorney-General Senator George Brandis QC to court in order to see his official diary containing the weekly agenda between 18 September 2013 and 12 May 2014 – appears it’s not just about an alleged lack of consultation over environmental legal agency and arts funding cuts.
The following also suggests more than one motive may lie behind the Attorney-General currently using taxpayer funds to appeal the Administrative Appeals Tribunal decision in the Federal Court, in order to continue to block Dreyfus from seeing his ministerial diary.
This is a snapshot of a 4 May 2015 media release by the Attorney-General’s Department:
This is Ten News breaking the secret meeting story on 20 July 2015:
Brandis' secret meeting with Pell
Victims of child sexual abuse, being examined by the Royal Commission, have slammed Federal Attorney-General George Brandis over a secret meeting in Rome he had with Cardinal George Pell, who's long been accused of protecting paedophile priests.
This meeting, between the Catholic Attorney-General and the Australian Cardinal-Prefect heading the Vatican Secretariat for the Economy, took place over a meal at the official residence of the Australian Ambassador to the Holy See John McCarthy QC.
It is understood that it was in May 2015 that Cardinal Pell was privately informed that he was to be recalled to give evidence in late 2015 by the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.
On 25 May 2015 Pell responded by letter to the Royal Commission stating his intention to comply. As the cardinal well knows that anyone residing overseas cannot be summons to appear, the one quote from his letter found in the relevant media statement is rather too 'cute' for words
So it probably came as no surprise to avid followers of these hearings that, on 11 December, five days before he was to attend the Royal Commission, Cardinal Pell plead illness and refused to travel to Australia.
His appearance in person has been rescheduled for February 2016 during a further Case Study 28 hearing.
Anyone holding their breath as they wait for George Pell to appear in person at the Royal Commission again needs to exhale now, as ceasing to breathe until the Last Judgement Day is necessarily fatal.
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Post by pim on Jan 26, 2016 6:28:49 GMT 10
It's a great look, innit!! Pell the fugitive in the Vatican.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 6:56:21 GMT 10
George Brandis given Pell a heads up over the Royal commission is not a good look ... no doubt a Abbott bidding, murky opus dei business.
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Post by geopol on Feb 8, 2016 16:39:16 GMT 10
Pell gets his way and gets away with it.....The Church militant remains, in the eyes of many, outside the norms which it has always considered its natural position where it calls the tune. If The church could, it would have its own courts, as in the middle ages and even later and none of this child abuse business would ever get to the outside world...A pox on the bastards!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 17:30:00 GMT 10
Child abuse has been happening in the church pre middle ages...Pell is a gutless wonder.
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